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From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Container Freezer: Reuse Suspend Freezer
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:03:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1207278180.30178.94.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830804031649p6bbc60f3s59fb7c25a7260505@mail.gmail.com>


On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 16:49 -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:03 PM,  <matthltc@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >    * "freezer.kill"
> >
> >      writing <n> will send signal number <n> to all tasks
> >
> 
> My first thought (not having looked at the code yet) is that sending a
> signal doesn't really have anything to do with freezing, so it
> shouldn't be in the same subsystem. Maybe a separate subsystem called
> "signal"?
>
> And more than that, it's not something that requires any particular
> per-process state, so there's no reason that the subsystem that
> provides the "kill" functionality shouldn't be able to be mounted in
> multiple hierarchies.
> 
> How about if I added support for stateless subsystems, that could
> potentially be mounted in multiple hierarchies at once? They wouldn't
> need an entry in the css set, since they have no state.

	This seems reasonable to me. A quick look at Cedric's patches suggests
there's no need for such cgroup subsystems to be tied together -- the
signalling is all done internally to the freeze_task(), refrigerator(),
and thaw_process() functions from what I recall.

> >  * Usage :
> >
> >    # mkdir /containers/freezer
> >    # mount -t container -ofreezer freezer  /containers/freezer
> >    # mkdir /containers/freezer/0
> >    # echo $some_pid > /containers/freezer/0/tasks
> >
> >  to get status of the freezer subsystem :
> >
> >    # cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.freeze
> >    RUNNING
> >
> >  to freeze all tasks in the container :
> >
> >    # echo 1 > /containers/freezer/0/freezer.freeze
> >    # cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.freeze
> >    FREEZING
> >    # cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.freeze
> >    FROZEN
> 
> Could we separate this out into two files? One called "freeze" that's
> a 0/1 for whether we're intending to freeze the subsystem, and one
> called "frozen" that indicates whether it is frozen? And maybe a
> "state" file to report the RUNNING/FREEZING/FROZEN distinction in a
> human-readable way?

3 files seems like overkill. I think making them human-readable is good
and can be done with two files: "state" (read-only) and
"state-next" (read/write). Transitions between RUNNING and FROZEN are
obvious when state-next != state. I think the advantages are it's pretty
human-readable, you don't need separate strings and files for the
transitions, it's clear what's about to happen (IMHO), and it only
requires 2 files. Some examples:

To initiate freezing:

# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state
RUNNING
# echo "FROZEN" > /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state
RUNNING
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
FROZEN
# sleep N
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state
FROZEN
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
FROZEN

So to cancel freezing you might see something like:

# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state
RUNNING
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
FROZEN
# echo "RUNNING" > /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
# cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next
RUNNING

If you wanted to know if a group was transitioning:

# diff /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next

Or:
# current=`cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state`
# next=`cat /containers/freezer/0/freezer.state-next`
# [ "$current" != "$next" ] && echo "Transitioning"
# [ "$current" == "RUNNING" -a "$next" == "FROZEN" ] && echo "Freezing"
# [ "$current" == "FROZEN" -a "$next" == "RUNNING" ] && echo "Thawing"
# [ "$current" == "RUNNING" -a "$next" == "RUNNING" ] && echo "No-op"
# [ "$current" == "FROZEN" -a "$next" == "FROZEN" ] && echo "No-op"

etc.

Cheers,
	-Matt Helsley


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-04  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-03 21:03 matthltc
2008-04-03 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] Container Freezer: Add TIF_FREEZE flag to all architectures matthltc
2008-04-11 11:49   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-03 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Container Freezer: Make refrigerator always available matthltc
2008-04-03 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] Container Freezer: Implement freezer cgroup subsystem matthltc
2008-04-11 11:49   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-03 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] Container Freezer: Skip frozen cgroups during power management resume matthltc
2008-04-03 23:49 ` [Devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Container Freezer: Reuse Suspend Freezer Paul Menage
2008-04-04  3:03   ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2008-04-04 15:56     ` Oren Laadan
2008-04-04 22:27       ` Matt Helsley
2008-04-05  0:30         ` Oren Laadan
2008-04-05  0:54           ` Matt Helsley
2008-04-04 14:11   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-11 11:49 ` Pavel Machek

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