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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	sukadev@us.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Multiple instances of devpts
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:15:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208027757.28187.25.camel@x61.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48010583.3020403@zytor.com>


On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 11:54 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Al Viro wrote:
> > 
> > Why not simply allow independent instances of devpts and be done with that?
> 
> In particular:
> 
> /dev/ptmx can be a symlink ptmx -> pts/ptmx, and we add a ptmx instance 
> inside the devpts filesystem.  Each devpts filesystem is responsible for 
> its own pool of ptys, with own numbering, etc.
> 
> This does mean that entries in /dev/pts are more than just plain device 
> nodes, which they are now (you can cp -a a device node from /dev/pts 
> into another filesystem and it will still "just work"), but I doubt this 
> actually matters to anyone.  If anyone cares, now I guess would be a 
> good time to speak up.

Agreed.   That is another legitimate path.  And if all you care about is
isolation and not dealing with the general class of problems with the
global device number to device mapping that is sane.  I know we have
several other virtual devices that we tend to care about but ptys are
the real world pain point.

Further I don't see any conflict with the generalizing devpts in this
manner (so you only see a subset of the ptys) and then later adding a
namespace that deals with the whole device number to device mapping.

Eric





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-12 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-12 17:29 [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces sukadev
2008-04-12 17:32 ` [PATCH 1/4]: Propagate error code from devpts_pty_new sukadev
2008-04-12 17:32 ` [PATCH 2/4]: Factor out PTY index allocation sukadev
2008-04-12 17:33 ` [PATCH 3/4]: Move devpts globals into init_pts_ns sukadev
2008-04-12 17:34 ` [PATCH 4/4]: Enable multiple mounts of /dev/pts sukadev
2008-04-12 18:09 ` [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 18:35 ` Al Viro
2008-04-12 18:54   ` Multiple instances of devpts H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:15     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-04-12 19:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:30         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:06 ` [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-13  0:59   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-01 18:12   ` Per-instance devpts H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-01 19:23     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-01 19:35       ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 19:37       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]     ` <f73f7ab80808020004j15b0d0e5x5fa911242641b34d@mail.gmail.com>
2008-08-02  7:06       ` Kyle Moffett
2008-08-02 15:33         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02  8:54     ` Bastian Blank
2008-08-03  5:08     ` sukadev
2008-08-03 11:31       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03 12:04       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:46         ` sukadev
2008-08-03 17:54           ` Alan Cox

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