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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: "Torvalds, Linus" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR broken by cfs
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:51:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1219060315.10800.338.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808182124.17359.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 21:24 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:

> Really, you think the enterprise distros will willingly break POSIX
> and their own backwards compatiblity by default? I wouldn't have
> thought so, but anyway I guess they are free to make that choice, so
> where's the problem?

I'm not seeing why you're making such a big fuss over this - IMO its not
such a significant breakage. Esp since very few realtime apps will
require such large amounts of time to ever run into the throttle.

If their usage is 95%+ cpu they must have magic WCET estamates - or like
in this case, be a benchmark app which IMHO just abuses the real-time
class.

It's like running your real-time code on a 5% slower cpu - if it runs
correctly on the 5% slower cpu, it will run correctly here too.

Note that correctness from a RT pov is making your deadline.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-18 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-16  9:55 Stefani Seibold
2008-08-16 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-16 16:26   ` Stefani Seibold
2008-08-16 21:29   ` Stefani Seibold
2008-08-17 22:15     ` Dario Faggioli
2008-08-18 10:47       ` [PATCH] sched: rt-bandwidth disable fixes Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 11:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-17 13:04   ` SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR broken by cfs Nick Piggin
2008-08-18 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 10:58       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-18 11:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 11:24           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-18 11:51             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-08-18 12:14               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-18 18:01                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-18 19:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19  7:44                   ` Nick Piggin

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