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Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir
From: Marcel Holtmann <holtmann@linux.intel.com>
To: Faidon Liambotis <paravoid@debian.org>
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Hi Faidon,

> > it is that the Debian maintainer screwed this up. Upstream never
> > promoted kernel versioned directories for the firmware. I had a long
> > discussion with Dave about it at OLS and using the kernel version is
> > just plain wrong. The driver maintainers should version the firmware if
> > they break it in an API incompatible way.
> > 
> > To shed some light into the problem with Debian/Ubuntu. They install the
> > firmware in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/ and everytime they bump their ABI
> > number, they have to install all the firmware again. This is just
> > braindead. Their udev script actually checks /lib/firmware first and
> > then the kernel versioned directory. So that is just fine.
> I could not find any packages in Debian that contain a
> /lib/firmware/$(KERNELRELEASE) directory.
> 
> Perhaps this is just an Ubuntu issue?

I looked through my Debian boxes and you are right. Sorry for this. I
was under the assumption Ubuntu took the Debian package, but it seems
that they even modified that one. So this issue is than distros derived
from Ubuntu and _not_ Debian (unless udev is unmodified).

Regards

Marcel