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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Thierry Vignaud <tvignaud@mandriva.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jeffm@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:15:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1221167725.4077.34.camel@macbook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080911205738.GB11708@kroah.com>

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 13:57 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:38:38PM -0700, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 13:15 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > This is the firmware that is in the kernel source tree, that has been
> > > moved to use request_firmware, and was originally tied tightly to the
> > > kernel drivers themselves.
> > 
> > Not really. Most of it hasn't changed for years; it isn't _really_ tied
> > that closely to the kernel. 
> 
> Some are and some aren't (I have two in my -staging tree that are
> changing as the driver changes, so it does happen.)

That's fine. Just make sure the filename changes when an incompatible
change is made to the firmware -- just like you handle sonames in
libraries. It's not hard, and you should _always_ have been doing it.

And it's a completely bogus example _anyway_, because you're not adding
this extra firmware to the kernel tree.

Remember, all recent drivers have been using request_firmware() for
years anyway, and even the older drivers with active and on-the-ball
maintainers have been switching to request_firmware().

All I've done _recently_ is a bit of a sweep on the stragglers. And
because of the amount of stupid whining, I made it possible to keep it
in the kernel tree rather than just evicting it, as we did in the past.

> > You can just ignore what the kernel ships with, and install the firmware
> > from the linux-firmware.git repository instead.
> 
> So you are now forcing distros to ship the linux-firmware.git repo
> instead?  That's not nice and is a totally new dependancy for them to
> handle.

Not at all; that's the ideal situation, but nobody's forced to do it
that way.

> What about the very basic fact that kernel versions will stomp on files
> from other kernel versions if you install multiple kernels on the same
> machine?  That's just bad and ripe for problems in any package
> management system.

Only if you do stupid things in your packaging. So don't do that.

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-11 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09 14:15 Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-10 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11 13:37   ` Greg KH
2008-09-10 23:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:05   ` David Miller
2008-09-10 23:15     ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:24       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11  2:55         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-10 23:24       ` David Miller
2008-09-10 23:36         ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-10 23:42           ` David Miller
2008-09-11  0:23             ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11  0:39               ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11  7:44         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:13           ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 16:09             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:29           ` Faidon Liambotis
2008-09-11 16:12             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:58           ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 16:16             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11  8:43       ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11  9:52         ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 14:50           ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 15:24             ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 15:31               ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 15:49                 ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 15:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 16:32                     ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 17:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-11 18:24                         ` Frans Pop
2008-09-11 16:01                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11  4:00     ` David Newall
2008-09-11  6:35     ` Faidon Liambotis
2008-09-11  7:15       ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 13:38         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-11 14:36           ` Jeff Mahoney
2008-09-11 16:29             ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 16:20       ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 11:29     ` Thierry Vignaud
2008-09-11 13:40       ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 16:39         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-11 16:45           ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 20:18             ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 20:15           ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 20:38             ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-11 20:57               ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 21:15                 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-09-11 22:07                   ` Greg KH
2008-09-11 22:25                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12  8:39                       ` Joseph Fannin
2008-09-12 13:50                         ` Gene Heskett
2008-09-12 14:32                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12 20:24                           ` Kai Henningsen
2011-02-25  2:39 Jeff Mahoney
2011-02-25  5:01 ` Michael Tokarev
2011-02-25 15:03   ` Jeff Mahoney
2011-02-25 16:54     ` David Woodhouse
2011-03-01  0:48 ` Andrew Morton

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