From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185F3ECE561 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3092087A for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=redchan.it header.i=@redchan.it header.b="Aj7TFyz5" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0F3092087A Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=redchan.it Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731258AbeIXU6r (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:58:47 -0400 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:38224 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727650AbeIXU6q (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:58:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=redchan.it; s=mail; t=1537800968; bh=URh9qHFeCo38PKQdUpck3eEvRCHNHalmUuyYg8Id3A0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:From; b=Aj7TFyz5i2EKMp+SjxN2cz7hNP/9x34JrL1lPi2AOHgKvlMHd2gHhkAd7gCYeb7KC fgGCiZH3YuEo/qaxJaQmRAgdwyTgLG8mEoOxgL+HMkecjuf4PGxN0FiENsMtipRUkC I6/Z56eK/1I/hX9U3i7oESMhNwYys7oszBDvK9rMShtI3Hmc34T1T2P5eJ1tAJTOhL bz3/vYZ0FhJeXxw2VQGdxIV3JlOtpvbeoXbttc6HvbVAPgjYPJ1DjZAvkPne8w7VqI gImv9lxunOgzzf9vymIolROZgugI/TzYqApio3Dh0pLar2xxc1xLi9dKHOUizGjP/h +A73LYPDI1nPg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:56:07 +0000 From: gratuitouslicensesarerevocable@redchan.it To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dng@lists.dyne.org Cc: rms@gnu.org, bruce@perens.com, esr@thyrsus.com, moglen@columbia.edu, bkuhn@sfconservancy.org, editor@lwn.net Subject: Code of Conduct: Yes mjg59 (Matthew Garrett) Consent _is_ important. gratuitous licenses are revocable at will. Message-ID: <12223823a6dfac87b133375b9eba6929@redchan.it> X-Sender: gratuitouslicensesarerevocable@redchan.it User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Spurned linux contributors SHOULD revoke the license grant they have given regarding their code. In the case of the linux kernel; These are typically gratuities and can be rescinded at the will of the grantor. > ecree wrote: > That is presuming my consent against me, and consent is very important > to me. > mjg59 (Matthew Garrett) wrote: > It's not presuming your consent at all, it's adding a condition to your > future participation. If you find that condition unacceptable then you > should let your employers know - they can either make a case to the > Linux Foundation or move you to another role. Remember that > participation in the kernel is a privilege, not a right, and our > involvement as always been at the whims of Linus. I'm well aware of how > much it sucks when he makes decisions I don't like without consulting > with the rest of the community, and I'm also aware that there's nothing > I can do about it. Consent is important, keeping the rights-holders happy is important. A gratuitous license is revocable at the will of the grantor. If ecree holds copyright to his contributions, and he sought no consideration (usually money) from the licensee, he can revoke the license grant at any time under US property law. Contributors to the linux code base do not typically sign over their copyrights to linux or a foundation, instead retaining the copyright themselves. Contributors (here specifically: copyright holders) to the linux code base do not typically take money from those to whom they license their work. Do the math. Property 101. There is a reason Moglen required assignments to the FSF for gnu related work, and the public story does not give the whole truth regarding intent. (estopple won't save you, nor will it save would-have-been potential future licensees) (And yes, I am a lawyer (but not yours))