From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: stern@rowland.harvard.edu, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Freezer: Don't count threads waiting for frozen filesystems.
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:10:53 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225444253.6574.21.camel@nigel-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Kvpgo-00045l-GU@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
Hi.
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 09:49 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > I'm not sure that's true. You see, I'm thinking of this as not that
> > different to the problem of unmounting filesystems. There, too, we need
> > to unmount in a particular order, and let transactions on each
> > filesystem stop cleanly before we can unmount them. Even if there are
> > differences, perhaps looking at how we handle unmounting will help with
> > handling freezing.
>
> There's nothing magic about umount, it just uses a refcount on the fs.
>
> But umount changes the namespace, that's the big difference. For
> example if a process is accessing path P which has a component inside
> the mount, it _will_ get different results before and after the
> umount. This is not acceptable for freezing.
>
> For freezing to work with such a refcounting scheme, we'd have to
> count _future_ uses of the fs as well, not just current ones, which is
> obviously impossible.
I must be missing something. If you're freezing future users of the
filesystem before they can start anything new, doesn't that deal with
this problem?
Regards,
Nigel
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2008-10-26 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 12:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 20:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 21:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 22:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 20:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 21:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 21:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 22:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 23:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 8:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 13:51 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 14:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 15:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 16:17 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 16:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 20:37 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 21:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 23:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-09 13:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-30 13:56 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 21:44 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 8:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 9:10 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2008-10-31 9:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 11:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 12:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 21:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 23:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:54 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 14:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 17:07 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 17:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-15 16:58 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-28 22:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
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