From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756270AbZHFRA0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:00:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756204AbZHFRAZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:00:25 -0400 Received: from emroute3.ornl.gov ([160.91.4.110]:33225 "EHLO emroute3.ornl.gov" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755342AbZHFRAY (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:00:24 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 2363 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:00:24 EDT Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:20:58 -0400 From: David Dillow Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev In-reply-to: <87ljlxhrnr.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> To: Andi Kleen Cc: Greg KH , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers , Jan Blunck , gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer , Scott James Remnant Message-id: <1249575658.19886.8.camel@lap75545.ornl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-2.fc10) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20090805171513.GA10443@kroah.com> <20090805192037.19c54c4d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090805182805.GA7534@kroah.com> <20090805185136.GA21442@kroah.com> <87ljlxhrnr.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:46 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > Greg KH writes: > > > > It makes the userspace boot process much simpler and easier to maintain, > > as well as providing a way to handle rescue disks and images trivially, > > and it makes the kernel _less_ dependant on the early userspace bootup > > scripts. > > As a initrd less kernel user I can really only agree: getting rid > of the udev-in-initrd requirement would be a big step forward > in usability. Typically I always have to pre populate > a on disk /dev manually first to get my kernels to boot. If you use mount by label or UUID, you still need udev (or other tools) in the initrd to find the right disk, correct? And for distros that want to support that, does this really reduce the amount of code in the initrd?