From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754791AbZHLAZb (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:25:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753360AbZHLAZa (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:25:30 -0400 Received: from smtp.knology.net ([24.214.63.101]:54443 "EHLO smtp.knology.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751227AbZHLAZa (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:25:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev From: David Dillow To: Andi Kleen Cc: Greg KH , Greg KH , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers , Jan Blunck , Harald Hoyer , Scott James Remnant , Arjan van de Ven In-Reply-To: <20090811145523.GD14368@basil.fritz.box> References: <20090805171513.GA10443@kroah.com> <20090805192037.19c54c4d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090805182805.GA7534@kroah.com> <20090805185136.GA21442@kroah.com> <87ljlxhrnr.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <1249575658.19886.8.camel@lap75545.ornl.gov> <20090806183147.GA28409@suse.de> <1249772876.22248.34.camel@obelisk.thedillows.org> <20090810153943.GB7652@kroah.com> <1250001374.22248.65.camel@obelisk.thedillows.org> <20090811145523.GD14368@basil.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:25:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1250036727.26788.7.camel@obelisk.thedillows.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 (2.24.5-2.fc10) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 16:55 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > No, not really. It isn't hard to make a static /dev, or a rescue initrd > > for the cases with dynamic device numbers. > > There's a world between strictly controlled embedded and fully general > distributions. Sure, and I've acknowledged that. But it doesn't mean this needs a kernel solution. > I want a dynamic /dev, but a fast one that doesn't need initrd or > slows down booting. So use Eric/Arjan's program that does it in 60ms -- you get a dynamic /dev, no initrd, fast boot, and no kernel changes required. It remains to be seen how much it costs to do it in user space vs kernel space. Arjan -- do you have a pointer to your program? Perhaps I can shake loose some time to test that.