From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754171AbZHMKCl (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:02:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754135AbZHMKC0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:02:26 -0400 Received: from courier.cs.helsinki.fi ([128.214.9.1]:53487 "EHLO mail.cs.helsinki.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753902AbZHMKCX (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:02:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections From: Pekka Enberg To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Alan Cox , Pavel Machek , Joe Perches , Ben Dooks , linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, David John , Erik Mouw , kernel list , Andrew Morton , David Miller , Krzysztof Halasa In-Reply-To: <20090813094736.GZ6132@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <1249563730.10297.13.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20090806133349.GF27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1249568614.10297.20.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20090806150322.GX2080@trinity.fluff.org> <1249948147.8895.96.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> <20090812115520.GI24339@elf.ucw.cz> <20090812194838.GB12117@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <84144f020908121317g64551a2cu1b960f44ed5d0d9@mail.gmail.com> <20090812212502.GA24667@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090813103511.2928a085@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090813094736.GZ6132@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:02:23 +0300 Message-Id: <1250157743.8141.18.camel@penberg-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Russell, On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 10:47 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > As I've already pointed out in previous threads, people believe that they > should talk to me about ARM mailing lists. Proven, multiple times by > multiple people. > > Fact: These lists have _TWO_ admins. Fact: Everyone only talks to me > about problems with these lists. Fact: they do not copy Erik. > > Moving them to vger isn't going to change that. The only effect that > it'll have is make me frustrated because I'm then constantly bothered > by people who can't do the sodding research to work out who they should > be talking to. > > Humans are, at the end of the day, bone idle lazy creatures. Hey, I couldn't care less on what list ARM development happens on. All I wanted to do is point out that the way you handle your mailing list is a PITA for contributors that would like to send occasional ARM patches but don't want to invest the energy to subscribe to your list. And yes, even if it's a moderated list, not a subscriber-only list, it's a PITA all the same. I really have no interest in arguing about it because it's the ARM community that's losing out, not me. (Or maybe you're just not interested in minor contributors, dunno.) Pekka