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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	"David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	jmorris@namei.org, gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Security/sysfs: v2 - Enable security xattrs to be set on sysfs files, directories, and symlinks.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:53:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1250769187.3629.361.camel@moss-pluto.epoch.ncsc.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1skfni4uy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 19:41 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> writes:
> 
> > So I still don't like the way it exposes LSM internal data to the
> > file system code, but given how long it's taking for me to create
> > a better solution I don't think that I can in all fairness say NAK
> > to David Quigley's sysfs patch any longer. I withdraw my objection,
> > while maintaining my reservations.
> 
> Until I see it wired up against another filesystem I retain my
> objections.  When I asked he pretty much told me that it doesn't
> generalize to other filesystems well and it is a sysfs special case.

I think that's a misunderstanding (likely our fault).  As I said, we
already have what we need for getting and setting security xattrs on
in-memory filesystems that pin their inodes, so the only missing bit was
the ability to preserve userspace-set attributes in in-memory
filesystems that can evict their inodes.  And the hooks proposed by
David are generic for that purpose.   You still have to add them to each
such in-memory filesystem that doesn't pin its inodes as each has its
own distinct backing data structure, but you don't need more hooks or a
different approach.

> The way sysctl and proc are wired as special cases into the lsm
> has been a maintenance disaster so far, and I think it a very bad
> idea to add yet another lsm special case, that supports only one
> filesystem.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-15 13:48 [PATCH] Security/sysfs: " David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:28 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:31 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:29 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:49   ` Greg KH
2009-07-21 16:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 17:01   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24  8:13     ` James Morris
2009-07-24 14:34       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24 14:54         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14  4:59 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14 12:20   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 12:40     ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15  1:33       ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 12:01         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15  1:19     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 11:53       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 22:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15  1:42     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15  2:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15  4:56         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15  6:01           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-16 17:25             ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-18  3:55             ` [PATCH] Security/sysfs: v2 - " Casey Schaufler
2009-08-18 12:14               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-18 14:12                 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-18 14:23                   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-19  4:37                     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-19 11:58                       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-19 17:47                         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-19 23:59                         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-20  2:41                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-20 11:53                             ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2009-08-20 13:18 ` [PATCH] Security/sysfs: " David P. Quigley
2009-08-21  3:38   ` Casey Schaufler

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