From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755555AbZHUQCH (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755433AbZHUQCG (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:06 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:57578 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755417AbZHUQCE (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Mailing lists have moved From: David Woodhouse To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Russell King , vince@kyllikki.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org In-Reply-To: <200908211731.24538.arnd@arndb.de> References: <1250855566.3311.100.camel@macbook.infradead.org> <200908211513.48424.arnd@arndb.de> <1250868037.3311.106.camel@macbook.infradead.org> <200908211731.24538.arnd@arndb.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:02:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1250870521.3311.169.camel@macbook.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:31 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > Contrary to what you expect to be > the minimum level of intelligence required to subscribe to development > mailing list, a huge number of them subsequently flooded the list > with messages saying 'please unsubscribe me please' or the like. > Needless to say, there was a clear instruction on the bottom of each > mail telling you how to unsubscribe. Hm. There's no accounting for the stupidity of the human animal. We considered doing it as a mass _invitation_ (which needs the subscriber to click the link to confirm) rather than a mass subscription. In general, I think it's better to err on the side of inclusion -- so I decided against that because I thought too many people wouldn't notice it and would fall off the lists as a result. Perhaps that was the wrong decision, but I suspect nothing is gained now by going back and changing things, even if I _did_ have the required information. Even with the notification and the first major thread being "ARM Mailing lists have moved", you're right that there are probably a few people who are _so_ stupid that they can't manage to work it out. I've sent a mail with words of one syllable or fewer to each list, which might hopefully help -- but I'm sure there'll still be some. When that happens, we'll unsubscribe them -- and send in the ninjas to ensure they don't accidentally breed. -- dwmw2