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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Pierre-Marc Fournier <pierre-marc.fournier@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, GeunSik Lim <leemgs1@gmail.com>,
	Zhaolei <zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@gmail.com>,
	"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
	Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinderrajput@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dominique Toupin <dominique.toupin@ericsson.com>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: Relicensing tracepoints and markers to Dual LGPL v2.1/GPL v2,headers to Dual BSD/GPL
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:29:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1256563793.26028.240.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE5A17D.5020202@polymtl.ca>

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 09:17 -0400, Pierre-Marc Fournier wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > But i also disagree with it on a technical level: code duplication is 
> > _bad_. Why does the code have to be duplicated in user-space like that? 
> > I'd like Linux tracing code to be in the kernel repo. Why isnt this done 
> > properly, as part of the kernel project - to make sure it all stays in 
> > sync?
> > 
> 
> If you mean that this code should solely be used inside the kernel, then
> what you propose technically does not work. There is a very high cost to
> accessing kernel code from userspace. This cost is simply unacceptable
> for the kind of userspace tracing that is needed today.

I think that Ingo is thinking that the tracing is for the kernel, and is
asking why the duplication needs to be done for tools tracing the
kernel.

But what I think is trying to be done here is to use the same types of
MACROS that we have in the kernel to do tracing in userspace. That a
userspace program can add their own "TRACE_EVENT" and that the headers
there will create a tracepoint for them the same way we currently do in
the kernel.

Am I correct in my analysis?

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-26 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-23 16:02 Relicensing tracepoints and markers to Dual LGPL v2.1/GPL v2, headers " Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-23 16:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-24 21:03   ` Jesper Juhl
2009-10-24 21:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-26  1:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-26  2:08       ` Relicensing tracepoints and markers to Dual LGPL v2.1/GPL v2,headers " Zhaolei
2009-10-26  5:03         ` GeunSik Lim
2009-10-26  7:30           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-26  8:10             ` GeunSik Lim
2009-10-26 10:17             ` Alan Cox
2009-10-26 11:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-26 13:45                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-26 13:40               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-26 13:17             ` Pierre-Marc Fournier
2009-10-26 13:29               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2009-10-26 16:11                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-26 14:18               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-26 16:05                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-26 20:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-28 14:11             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-23 16:31 ` Relicensing tracepoints and markers to Dual LGPL v2.1/GPL v2, headers " Ingo Molnar
2009-10-23 17:02   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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