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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pagemap: early return on unmapped areas
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:02:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1263488531.29868.5151.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114085230.GA12078@localhost>

On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 16:52 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:30:48PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > ---
> > > pagemap: early return on unmapped areas
> > 
> > Yes seems like a reasonable idea.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I just changed the ">" to ">=", because it happen to make a difference
> for cp/cat, which does 4k sized read:
> 
>         4k read buffer = 4k/8 pages = 512 pages = NR_PMD_PAGES
> 
> So the change to ">=" makes cp exit immediately (4k buffer matches
> exactly one PMD hole).
> 
> before
>         dd if=/proc/$$/pagemap of=/dev/null bs=4k
>         512+0 records in
>         512+0 records out
>         2097152 bytes (2.1 MB) copied, 0.0225796 s, 92.9 MB/s
> 
> after
>         dd if=/proc/$$/pagemap of=/dev/null bs=4k
>         0+0 records in
>         0+0 records out
>         0 bytes (0 B) copied, 2.8029e-05 s, 0.0 kB/s

Have you guys lost your minds?

I regularly used the exact standard tool you just broke above to test
pagemap when I was developing it. There's no doubt that this patch (or
any similarly misguided ones) WILL regress existing naive or not
intended to be portable 32-bit users. And if I was some poor future
bastard trying to write a program against pagemap with your patch, odds
of getting a concussion banging my head against the wall trying to
figure out its highly non-file-like behavior would be quite high. 

Why are we even still on this. There's no regression. LTP + pagemap +
64-bit has always behaved thus. Nor are large virtual files new. And
LTP's n00b assumption that it can just read all of any file in /proc has
always been wrong. LTP had the exact same problem on 64-bit /proc/kcore
(how long has that existed?) and finally fixed it in 2005.

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      reply	other threads:[~2010-01-14 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-10  2:09 2.6.33 pagemap endless read loop Andi Kleen
2010-01-10  6:33 ` Américo Wang
2010-01-10 12:37   ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-12  5:59     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-01-12 15:32     ` Américo Wang
2010-01-12 16:28       ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-13  2:08         ` Américo Wang
     [not found] ` <20100113141648.42eff724.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]   ` <1263421562.29868.5000.camel@calx>
     [not found]     ` <20100113143055.7bea30c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]       ` <1263423916.29868.5009.camel@calx>
     [not found]         ` <20100113151502.fa425247.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]           ` <20100114055319.GA17671@localhost>
     [not found]             ` <20100113221013.b1beecb4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2010-01-14  8:06               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-14  8:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-14  8:52                   ` [PATCH] pagemap: early return on unmapped areas Wu Fengguang
2010-01-14 17:02                     ` Matt Mackall [this message]

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