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From: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
To: "svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ma, Ling" <ling.ma@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	"ego@in.ibm.com" <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: change in sched cpu_power causing regressions with SCHED_MC
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:15:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1266606948.2814.62.camel@sbs-t61.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100219130318.GA20884@dirshya.in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 05:03 -0800, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > -	/* Don't want to pull so many tasks that a group would go idle */
> > -	max_pull = min(sds->max_load - sds->avg_load,
> > -			sds->max_load - sds->busiest_load_per_task);
> > +	if (!sds->group_imb) {
> > +		/*
> > + 	 	 * Don't want to pull so many tasks that a group would go idle.
> > +	 	 */
> > +		load_above_capacity = (sds->busiest_nr_running - 
> > +						sds->busiest_group_capacity);
> > +
> > +		load_above_capacity *= (SCHED_LOAD_SCALE * SCHED_LOAD_SCALE);
> > +	
> > +		load_above_capacity /= sds->busiest->cpu_power;
> > +	}
> 
> This seems tricky.  max_load - avg_load will be less than
> load_above_capacity most of the time.  How does this expression
> increase the max_pull from previous expression?

I am not trying to increase/decrease from the previous expression. Just
trying to do the right thing (to ultimately address smt/mc
power-savings), as the "max_load - busiest_load_per_task" no longer
represents the load above capacity.

> 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * We're trying to get all the cpus to the average_load, so we don't
> > +	 * want to push ourselves above the average load, nor do we wish to
> > +	 * reduce the max loaded cpu below the average load, as either of these
> > +	 * actions would just result in more rebalancing later, and ping-pong
> > +	 * tasks around. Thus we look for the minimum possible imbalance.
> > +	 * Negative imbalances (*we* are more loaded than anyone else) will
> > +	 * be counted as no imbalance for these purposes -- we can't fix that
> > +	 * by pulling tasks to us. Be careful of negative numbers as they'll
> > +	 * appear as very large values with unsigned longs.
> > +	 */
> > +	max_pull = min(sds->max_load - sds->avg_load, load_above_capacity);
> 
> Does this increase or decrease the value of max_pull from previous
> expression?

Does the above help answer your question, Vaidy?

>  
> >  	/* How much load to actually move to equalise the imbalance */
> >  	*imbalance = min(max_pull * sds->busiest->cpu_power,
> > @@ -4069,19 +4097,6 @@ find_busiest_group(struct sched_domain *sd, int this_cpu,
> >  		sds.busiest_load_per_task =
> >  			min(sds.busiest_load_per_task, sds.avg_load);
> > 
> > -	/*
> > -	 * We're trying to get all the cpus to the average_load, so we don't
> > -	 * want to push ourselves above the average load, nor do we wish to
> > -	 * reduce the max loaded cpu below the average load, as either of these
> > -	 * actions would just result in more rebalancing later, and ping-pong
> > -	 * tasks around. Thus we look for the minimum possible imbalance.
> > -	 * Negative imbalances (*we* are more loaded than anyone else) will
> > -	 * be counted as no imbalance for these purposes -- we can't fix that
> > -	 * by pulling tasks to us. Be careful of negative numbers as they'll
> > -	 * appear as very large values with unsigned longs.
> > -	 */
> > -	if (sds.max_load <= sds.busiest_load_per_task)
> > -		goto out_balanced;
> 
> This is right.  This condition was treating most cases as balanced and
> exit right here. However if this check is removed, we will have to
> execute more code to detect/ascertain balanced case.

To add, in update_sd_lb_stats() we are already doing this:

               } else if (sgs.avg_load > sds->max_load &&
                           (sgs.sum_nr_running > sgs.group_capacity ||
                                sgs.group_imb)) {

So we are already checking sum_nr_running > group_capacity to select the
busiest group. So we are doing the equivalent of this balanced check
much before.

thanks,
suresh


  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-19 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-13  1:14 [patch] sched: fix SMT scheduler regression in find_busiest_queue() Suresh Siddha
2010-02-13  1:31 ` change in sched cpu_power causing regressions with SCHED_MC Suresh Siddha
2010-02-13 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-13 10:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-13 18:37       ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-13 18:49         ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-13 18:39     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-19  2:16     ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-19 12:32       ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-02-19 13:03       ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-19 19:15         ` Suresh Siddha [this message]
2010-02-19 14:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-19 18:36         ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-19 19:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-19 19:50             ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-19 20:02               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-20  1:13                 ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-22 18:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-24  0:13                     ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-24 17:43                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-24 19:31                         ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-26 10:24                       ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix SCHED_MC regression caused by change in sched cpu_power tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2010-02-26 14:55                       ` tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2010-02-19 19:52           ` change in sched cpu_power causing regressions with SCHED_MC Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-13 18:33   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-13 18:27 ` [patch] sched: fix SMT scheduler regression in find_busiest_queue() Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-13 18:39   ` Suresh Siddha
2010-02-13 18:56     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-13 20:25   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-13 20:36     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-14 10:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-15 12:35         ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-15 13:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-16 15:59             ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-16 17:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-16 18:25                 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-16 18:46                   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2010-02-16 18:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-15 22:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-16 14:16 ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix " tip-bot for Suresh Siddha

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