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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: mdharm-kernel@one-eyed-alien.net, oliver@neukum.org,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, greg@kroah.com, x0082077@ti.com,
	sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	bigeasy@linutronix.de, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, santosh.shilimkar@ti.com,
	pavel@ucw.cz, tom.leiming@gmail.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:47:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267552072.15401.83.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1267549527.15401.78.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 17:05 +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 21:11 +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:31:03 +0530
> > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> > > But the point of all of this is that I cache invalidation doesn't appear
> > > anywhere in the I/O path ... so  if we're getting I/D incoherency,
> > > there's some problem in the mm code (or there's a missing arch
> > > assumption ... like I cache gets moved in more aggressively than we
> > > expect).  Parisc is very sensitive to I/D incoherency, so we'd notice if
> > > there were a serious generic problem here.
> >
> > I'm not sure that there are some problems in the mm or common code. Is
> > this ARM's implementation issue? (Of course, the usb stack and the
> > driver's misuse of the DMA API needs to be fixed too).
> 
> Just to summarise - on ARM (PIPT / non-aliasing VIPT) there is I-cache
> invalidation for user pages in update_mmu_cache() (it could actually be
> in set_pte_at on SMP to avoid a race but that's for another thread). The
> D-cache is flushed by this function only if the PG_arch_1 bit is set.
> This bit is set in the ARM case by flush_dcache_page(), following the
> advice in Documentation/cachetlb.txt.
> 
> With some drivers (those doing PIO) or subsystems (SCSI mass storage
> over USB HCD), there is no call to flush_dcache_page() for page cache
> pages, hence the ARM implementation of update_mmu_cache() doesn't flush
> the D-cache (and only invalidating the I-cache doesn't help).
> 
> The viable solutions so far:
> 
>      1. Implement a PIO mapping API similar to the DMA API which takes
>         care of the D-cache flushing. This means that PIO drivers would
>         need to be modified to use an API like pio_kmap()/pio_kunmap()
>         before writing to a page cache page.
>      2. Invert the meaning of PG_arch_1 to denote a clean page. This
>         means that by default newly allocated page cache pages are
>         considered dirty and even if there isn't a call to
>         flush_dcache_page(), update_mmu_cache() would flush the D-cache.
>         This is the PowerPC approach.
> 
> Option 2 above looks pretty appealing to me since it can be done in the
> ARM code exclusively. I've done some tests and it indeed solves the
> cache coherency with a rootfs on a USB stick. As Russell suggested, it
> can be optimised to mark a page as clean when the DMA API is involved to
> avoid duplicate flushing.

Actually, option 2 still has an issue - does not easily work on SMP
systems where cache maintenance operations aren't broadcast in hardware.
In this case (ARM11MPCore), flush_dcache_page() is implemented
non-lazily so that the flushing happens on the same processor that
dirtied the cache. But since with some drivers there is no call to this
function, it wouldn't make any difference.

A solution is to do something like read-for-ownership before flushing
the D-cache in update_mmu_cache() (or set_pte_at()).

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-02 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 193+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-29 14:34 Catalin Marinas
2010-01-29 16:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-29 16:23 ` Ming Lei
2010-01-29 16:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-01-29 16:41     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-29 17:14       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-01-29 17:51     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-01-29 18:54       ` Matthew Dharm
2010-01-29 19:35         ` Greg KH
2010-02-01 13:49         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-01 17:29         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-01 20:14           ` Alan Stern
2010-02-02  4:24             ` Paul Mundt
2010-02-02  9:58               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-01 22:30           ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-02  6:58             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-02  9:31               ` Florian Fainelli
2010-02-02  6:39           ` Paul Mundt
2010-02-02 11:05             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 11:15               ` Paul Mundt
2010-02-02  9:11           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-02-02 11:09             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 11:48           ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-02 12:01             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 12:07               ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-02 12:11                 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-02 14:42                   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-02 14:52                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-02 15:10                       ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-02 15:34                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 20:38                     ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-02 12:39                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 13:08                   ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-02 14:34                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 17:11                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-02 17:20                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-02 21:52                         ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-03 15:15                           ` Alan Stern
2010-02-08  6:55                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-02 13:36                   ` Ming Lei
2010-02-02 14:35                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08  6:55           ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08  7:33             ` Andreas Mohr
2010-02-08 10:19               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08  9:51             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 10:03               ` Andy Green
2010-02-17  9:50                 ` Sascha Hauer
2010-02-17  9:57                   ` Andy Green
2010-02-08 10:52               ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-08 11:28                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16  7:57                   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16  8:22                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16  8:55                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16  9:07                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16  9:39                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16 13:32                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 13:40                               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 13:46                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:12                                   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 14:22                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-16 14:45                                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-16 15:44                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17  8:55                                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17  9:10                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17  9:17                                           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-02-17 17:02                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-17 20:26                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 20:30                                           ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-18  6:56                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-18  7:14                                               ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-17 12:29                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-17  3:21                         ` Ming Lei
2010-02-17  9:05                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17  9:15                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17  9:40                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:09                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 10:18                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 10:23                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-17 12:15                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17  9:55                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 10:05                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 15:27                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 20:37                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:44                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-17 22:31                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-19 17:15                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 17:36                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-19 20:53                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24  2:48                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24  7:16                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-24 21:12                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25  3:48                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-26  0:22                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-25 12:36                                             ` James Bottomley
2010-02-24  2:47                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 16:19                                       ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 21:13                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24 21:50                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25 20:52                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:00                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:36                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:25                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 16:52                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-26 21:51                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:00                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:14                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28  5:01                                             ` James Bottomley
2010-03-01 10:39                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-01 11:06                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-02 12:11                                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02 17:05                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 17:47                                                   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2010-03-02 23:33                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03 10:21                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:29                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  3:47                                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03  5:10                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  5:40                                                         ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03  9:36                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-03 10:24                                                             ` James Bottomley
2010-03-03 19:41                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04  2:00                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04  8:26                                                             ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 21:25                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-03  6:35                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-03 10:43                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 10:40                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 21:54                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 13:35                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 13:51                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 14:21                                                         ` James Bottomley
2010-03-04 14:27                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 15:25                                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:34                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 21:31                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-06 10:47                                                             ` James Bottomley
2010-03-06 19:36                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-06 21:07                                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07  5:54                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08 11:17                                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-06 21:03                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-07  3:37                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2010-03-08  8:46                                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-09  2:25                                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:29                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 15:41                                                             ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-04 16:30                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 17:34                                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 17:54                                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-04 22:27                                                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-03-04 18:07                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04 21:37                                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 22:11                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05  4:34                                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-05  9:27                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-05  1:17                                                                   ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-05  4:44                                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-10  3:52                                                                       ` Paul Mundt
2010-03-11 21:44                                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:34                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:28                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 21:40                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-03-05  4:31                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-04 15:35                                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-07  8:23                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-08 10:57                                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02 23:26                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-01 10:42                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03 20:24                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2010-02-26 21:40                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 21:49                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:24                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 19:17                                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 11:10                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-02  4:11                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-24  2:39                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 16:44                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-26 21:49                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-26 22:03                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-28  0:29                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-28 23:20                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-28 23:17                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:27                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:39                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 15:40                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 16:19                           ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-16  8:44                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-02-16  8:51                       ` Gadiyar, Anand
2010-02-20  7:21                         ` Pete Zaitcev
2010-02-03 23:56 George Spelvin
2010-02-04  4:39 ` Paul Mundt

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