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From: "Steven J. Magnani" <steve@digidescorp.com>
To: Rick Sherm <rick.sherm@yahoo.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: Trying to measure performance with splice/vmsplice ....
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:17:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271873856.3834.60.camel@iscandar.digidescorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <136370.38015.qm@web114316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Rick,

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 10:02 -0700, Rick Sherm wrote:
> Q3) When using splice, even though the destination file is opened in O_DIRECT mode, the data gets cached. I verified it using vmstat.
> 
> r  b   swpd   free   buff    cache   
> 1  0      0 9358820 116576 2100904
> 
> ./splice_to_splice
> 
> r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache
> 2  0      0 7228908 116576 4198164
> 
> I see the same caching issue even if I vmsplice buffers(simple malloc'd iov) to a pipe and then splice the pipe to a file. The speed is still an issue with vmsplice too.
> 

One thing is that O_DIRECT is a hint; not all filesystems bypass the
cache. I'm pretty sure ext2 does, and I know fat doesn't. 

Another variable is whether (and how) your filesystem implements the
splice_write file operation. The generic one (pipe_to_file) in
fs/splice.c copies data to pagecache. The default one goes out to
vfs_write() and might stand more of a chance of honoring O_DIRECT.

> Q4) Also, using splice, you can only transfer 64K worth of data(PIPE_BUFFERS*PAGE_SIZE) at a time,correct?.But using stock read/write, I can go upto 1MB buffer. After that I don't see any gain. But still the reduction in system/cpu time is significant.

I'm not a splicing expert but I did spend some time recently trying to
improve FTP reception by splicing from a TCP socket to a file. I found
that while splicing avoids copying packets to userland, that gain is
more than offset by a large increase in calls into the storage stack.
It's especially bad with TCP sockets because a typical packet has, say,
1460 bytes of data. Since splicing works on PIPE_BUFFERS pages at a
time, and packet pages are only about 35% utilized, each cycle to
userland I could only move 23 KiB of data at most. Some similar effect
may be in play in your case.

ftrace may be of some help in finding the bottleneck...

Regards,
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-16 17:02 Rick Sherm
2010-04-21 18:17 ` Steven J. Magnani [this message]
2010-04-23 16:07 Rick Sherm
2010-04-23 16:54 ` Steven J. Magnani
2010-04-23 17:05   ` Jens Axboe
2010-04-23 19:52     ` Rick Sherm

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