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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Pierre Tardy <tardyp@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org,
	ziga.mahkovec@gmail.com, davem <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: Perf and ftrace [was Re: PyTimechart]
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:21:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273702886.27703.58.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100512202745.GK21432@Krystal>

On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 16:27 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 14:37 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > 
> > > OK, I see. In LTTng, I dropped the mmap() support when I integrated splice(). In
> > > both case, I can share the pages between the "output" (mmap or splice) and the
> > > ring buffer because my ring buffer does not care about
> > > page->mapping/->index/etc, so I never have to swap them.
> > 
> > I'm curious, how do you handle the overwrite mode without swapping?
> 
> Explanation extracted from:
> 
> http://www.lttng.org/pub/thesis/desnoyers-dissertation-2009-12.pdf
> 
> 5.4 Atomic Buffering Scheme
> 5.4.3 Algorithms
> 
> "This is achieved by adding a supplementary sub-buffer, owned by the reader. A
> table with pointers to the sub-buffers being used by the writer allows the
> reader to change the reference to each sub-buffer atomically. The
> ReadGetSubbuf() algorithm is responsible for atomically exchanging the reference
> to the sub-buffer about to be read with the sub-buffer currently owned by the
> reader.

AKA - swapping

As I asked, this seems to do exactly what my ring buffer does, except
you use a table where I swap out the list.  But this is still swapping.


>  If the CAS operation fails, the reader does not get access to the buffer
> for reading."
> 
> I know your mother tongue is C, not English, so I just prepared a git repo with
> the current state of my work (please note that I'm currently in the process of
> cleaning up this code).
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/compudj/linux-2.6-ringbuffer.git
> 
> Interesting bits below.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> Note: The "frontend" refers to the buffer writer/reader synchronization
> algorithm. The "backend" deals with allocation of the memory buffers. This
> frontend/backend separation permits to use the same ring buffer synchronization
> code to write data to kernel pages, to video memory, to serial ports, etc etc,
> without having to deal with different synchronization schemes.

OK

> 
> Where the reader grabs the sub-buffer :
> 
> kernel/trace/ring_buffer_frontend.c: ring_buffer_get_subbuf()
> 
> 396         ret = update_read_sb_index(&buf->backend, &chan->backend, consumed_idx);
> 397         if (ret)
> 398                 return ret;
> 
> and releases it:
> 
> kernel/trace/ring_buffer_frontend.c: ring_buffer_put_subbuf()
> 
> 415         RCHAN_SB_SET_NOREF(buf->backend.buf_rsb.pages);
> 
> The writer clears the "noref" flag when it starts writing to a subbuffer, and
> clears that flag when it has fully committed a subbuffer.

Should one of the "clears" above be a set?

> 
> The primitives used by the "synchronization frontend" are declared in the
> backend here:
> 
> kernel/trace/ring_buffer_page_backend_internal.h:
> 
> Interesting definitions and data structures for our current discussions:
> 
> 17 #define RCHAN_SB_IS_NOREF(x)    ((unsigned long)(x) & RCHAN_NOREF_FLAG)
> 18 #define RCHAN_SB_SET_NOREF(x)   \

I really hate caps, even for macros. If it acts like a function, keep it
lowercase. Caps are for constants not functions.

Linux convention has always had lowercase for macros that act like
functions. Heck, why not just make these static inlines?


> 19         (x = (struct ring_buffer_backend_page *) \
> 20                 ((unsigned long)(x) | RCHAN_NOREF_FLAG))
> 21 #define RCHAN_SB_CLEAR_NOREF(x) \
> 22         (x = (struct ring_buffer_backend_page *) \
> 23                 ((unsigned long)(x) & ~RCHAN_NOREF_FLAG))
> 24
> 25 struct ring_buffer_backend_page {
> 26         void *virt;                     /* page virtual address (cached) */
> 27         struct page *page;              /* pointer to page structure */
> 28 };
> 29
> 30 struct ring_buffer_backend_subbuffer {
> 31         /* Pointer to backend pages for subbuf */
> 32         struct ring_buffer_backend_page *pages;
> 33 };
> 
> ...
> 
> 41 struct ring_buffer_backend {
> 42         /* Array of chanbuf_sb for writer */
> 43         struct ring_buffer_backend_subbuffer *buf_wsb;
> 44         /* chanbuf_sb for reader */
> 45         struct ring_buffer_backend_subbuffer buf_rsb;

So this is equivalent to my reader_page?

> 
> ...
> 
> 97 /**
> 98  * ring_buffer_clear_noref_flag - Clear the noref subbuffer flag, for writer.
> 99  */
> 100 static __inline__
> 101 void ring_buffer_clear_noref_flag(struct ring_buffer_backend *bufb,
> 102                                   unsigned long idx)
> 103 {
> 104         struct ring_buffer_backend_page *sb_pages, *new_sb_pages;
> 105
> 106         sb_pages = bufb->buf_wsb[idx].pages;
> 107         for (;;) {
> 108                 if (!RCHAN_SB_IS_NOREF(sb_pages))
> 109                         return; /* Already writing to this buffer */
> 110                 new_sb_pages = sb_pages;
> 111                 RCHAN_SB_CLEAR_NOREF(new_sb_pages);
> 112                 new_sb_pages = cmpxchg(&bufb->buf_wsb[idx].pages,
> 113                         sb_pages, new_sb_pages);
> 114                 if (likely(new_sb_pages == sb_pages))
> 115                         break;
> 116                 sb_pages = new_sb_pages;

The writer calls this??

> 117         }
> 118 }
> 119
> 120 /**
> 121  * ring_buffer_set_noref_flag - Set the noref subbuffer flag, for writer.
> 122  */
> 123 static __inline__
> 124 void ring_buffer_set_noref_flag(struct ring_buffer_backend *bufb,
> 125                                 unsigned long idx)
> 126 {
> 127         struct ring_buffer_backend_page *sb_pages, *new_sb_pages;
> 128
> 129         sb_pages = bufb->buf_wsb[idx].pages;
> 130         for (;;) {
> 131                 if (RCHAN_SB_IS_NOREF(sb_pages))
> 132                         return; /* Already set */
> 133                 new_sb_pages = sb_pages;
> 134                 RCHAN_SB_SET_NOREF(new_sb_pages);
> 135                 new_sb_pages = cmpxchg(&bufb->buf_wsb[idx].pages,
> 136                         sb_pages, new_sb_pages);
> 137                 if (likely(new_sb_pages == sb_pages))
> 138                         break;
> 139                 sb_pages = new_sb_pages;

Again, the writer calls this??

> 140         }
> 141 }
> 142
> 143 /**
> 144  * update_read_sb_index - Read-side subbuffer index update.
> 145  */
> 146 static __inline__
> 147 int update_read_sb_index(struct ring_buffer_backend *bufb,
> 148                          struct channel_backend *chanb,
> 149                          unsigned long consumed_idx)
> 150 {
> 151         struct ring_buffer_backend_page *old_wpage, *new_wpage;
> 152
> 153         if (unlikely(chanb->extra_reader_sb)) {
> 154                 /*
> 155                  * Exchange the target writer subbuffer with our own unused
> 156                  * subbuffer.
> 157                  */
> 158                 old_wpage = bufb->buf_wsb[consumed_idx].pages;
> 159                 if (unlikely(!RCHAN_SB_IS_NOREF(old_wpage)))
> 160                         return -EAGAIN;
> 161                 WARN_ON_ONCE(!RCHAN_SB_IS_NOREF(bufb->buf_rsb.pages));
> 162                 new_wpage = cmpxchg(&bufb->buf_wsb[consumed_idx].pages,
> 163                                 old_wpage,
> 164                                 bufb->buf_rsb.pages);

This looks just like the swap with reader_page that I do, except you use
a table and I use the list.  How do you replenish the buf_rsb.pages if
the splice keeps the page you just received active?

-- Steve


> 165                 if (unlikely(old_wpage != new_wpage))
> 166                         return -EAGAIN;
> 167                 bufb->buf_rsb.pages = new_wpage;
> 168                 RCHAN_SB_CLEAR_NOREF(bufb->buf_rsb.pages);
> 169         } else {
> 170                 /* No page exchange, use the writer page directly */
> 171                 bufb->buf_rsb.pages = bufb->buf_wsb[consumed_idx].pages;
> 172                 RCHAN_SB_CLEAR_NOREF(bufb->buf_rsb.pages);
> 173         }
> 174         return 0;
> 175 }
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-12 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-11 21:10 [RFC] PyTimechart Pierre Tardy
2010-05-11 21:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-12 13:37   ` Pierre Tardy
2010-05-12 14:48     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-12 15:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-12 16:46         ` Perf and ftrace [was Re: PyTimechart] Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-12 17:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 17:07             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 17:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 17:53                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 18:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 18:04                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 18:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 18:37                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 18:46                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-12 20:27                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 22:21                               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2010-05-13 13:20                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-13 15:42                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-13 16:31                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-13 16:46                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-13 17:10                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-13 18:33                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-14  7:53                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 18:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 18:51                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 19:01                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 20:52                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-12 17:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-12 16:59         ` [RFC] PyTimechart Ingo Molnar
2010-05-12 17:15           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-12 18:23             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-12 17:13       ` Pierre Tardy
2010-05-13 15:02         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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