From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Cc: Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
James Kosin <jkosin@intcomgrp.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, menage@google.com,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jsafrane@redhat.com,
tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Have sane default values for cpusets
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:19:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273785546.5605.3556.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100513140354.GA12639@tango.0pointer.de>
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 16:03 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 21:07 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > See Dhaval's patch on the background of systemd
> > > (http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html). When a service is
> > > started in systemd, we create a cgroup for it, when it ends, we remove
> > > it.
> >
> > I seriously hope that's optional, because I for one would really hate a
> > system that does that. I still mostly build kernels with only cpuset in
> > and really don't want anybody but me creating groups in there.
>
> By default systemd will create its groups in the "debug" hierarchy, (at
> least for now, in the long run i'd like to see "noop" hierarchy or so,
> that doesn't sound so temporary), since that controller is not useful
> for anything but keeping track of processes. So it shouldn't bother you
> at all.
Will it still work with a CONFIG_CGROUP=n kernel? I see distributions
deteriorate, you cannot even boot a raw bzImage kernel without initrd on
most distros (sure, its not too hard to fix, but still).
Also, I get all kinds of dumb-ass init-script failures for not having
modules but stuff built-in. A prime example is NFS failing on start on
both fedora and ubuntu with a built-in nfs server (for different but
both retarded reasons).
Requiring CONFIG_CGROUP=y to even get init running seems like a final
straw to ensure nobody will ever get anything to boot these days.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-13 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <eJktY-7JG-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <eJktY-7JG-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2010-05-12 14:11 ` James Kosin
2010-05-12 14:13 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 14:22 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 14:40 ` Jan Safranek
[not found] ` <4BEAE7A1.2010001@intcomgrp.com>
2010-05-12 17:42 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 17:58 ` James Kosin
2010-05-12 18:04 ` Chris Friesen
2010-05-12 18:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-12 19:07 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-13 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-13 14:03 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-13 20:06 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-13 20:36 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-13 20:41 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-13 21:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-13 23:55 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-14 5:44 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-14 6:34 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-13 21:29 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-13 21:19 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-05-14 0:02 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-14 5:43 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-14 6:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14 8:12 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-14 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14 11:57 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-14 16:07 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-05-14 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14 7:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14 8:11 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-12 13:05 Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-12 13:46 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 19:01 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-12 19:10 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 19:20 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-12 19:29 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 19:36 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-12 19:39 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-12 19:59 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-13 10:26 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-13 10:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-13 20:12 ` Paul Menage
2010-05-13 20:16 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-13 20:19 ` Dhaval Giani
2010-05-12 19:30 ` Balbir Singh
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