From: Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:21:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278001306.822.8.camel@bobble.smo.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100701075426.GC22976@laptop>
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:54 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 12:36:18PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Seriously: use a new lock for high level inode operations you are
> > optimising - don't repurpose an existing lock with different usage
> > rules just because it's convenient.
>
> That's what scalability development is all about, I'm afraid. Just
> adding more and more locks is what makes things more complex, so
> you have to juggle around or change locks when possible. If there is a
> difficulty with locking pops up in future, I'd prefer to look at it
> then.
I must agree strongly with Nick here. Lock proliferation is a Bad
Thing; adding a new lock here just adds complexity without really
improving anything, since you still have to deal with lock ordering
_and_ add a new one to the mix. It also makes struct inode bigger for
no real gain. Since i_lock is already well understood and its use is
pretty isolated, it seems ideal to extend it to more general use while
keeping the isolation intact as much as possible. Hell, if the code
were designed with this kind of scalability in mind, i_lock would be
doing all the locking directly related to struct inode. Much as it is
after Nick's work.
My argument here is that it's not just convenient, it makes the
implementation simpler since instead of dealing with two locks there's
just one.
--
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Google, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-01 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-24 3:02 [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 01/52] kernel: add bl_list npiggin
2010-06-24 6:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-24 14:42 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-28 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 6:30 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 02/52] fs: fix superblock iteration race npiggin
2010-06-29 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-29 14:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 20:04 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-29 20:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 20:38 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 7:13 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 12:51 ` Al Viro
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 03/52] fs: fs_struct rwlock to spinlock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 04/52] fs: cleanup files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 05/52] lglock: introduce special lglock and brlock spin locks npiggin
2010-06-24 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 9:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 06/52] fs: scale files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 7:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 07/52] fs: brlock vfsmount_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 08/52] fs: scale mntget/mntput npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 09/52] fs: dcache scale hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 10/52] fs: dcache scale lru npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 11/52] fs: dcache scale nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 12/52] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 13/52] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 14/52] fs: dcache scale subdirs npiggin
2010-06-24 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 15/52] fs: dcache scale inode alias list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 16/52] fs: dcache RCU for multi-step operaitons npiggin
2010-06-24 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 17:22 ` john stultz
2010-06-24 17:26 ` john stultz
2010-06-25 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 17/52] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 18/52] fs: dcache reduce dput locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 19/52] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 20/52] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 21/52] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 22/52] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 23/52] fs: dcache percpu nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 24/52] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking npiggin
2010-06-24 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 16:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-28 21:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-07 14:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 25/52] fs: dcache DCACHE_REFERENCED improve npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 26/52] fs: icache lock s_inodes list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 27/52] fs: icache lock inode hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 28/52] fs: icache lock i_state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count npiggin
2010-06-30 7:27 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:36 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:54 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 9:36 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 16:21 ` Frank Mayhar [this message]
2010-07-03 2:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03 3:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 4:31 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-05 22:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-06 4:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-06 10:38 ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-06 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 17:00 ` Frank Mayhar
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 30/52] fs: icache lock lru/writeback lists npiggin
2010-06-24 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 31/52] fs: icache atomic inodes_stat npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 32/52] fs: icache protect inode state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 33/52] fs: icache atomic last_ino, iunique lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 34/52] fs: icache remove inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 35/52] fs: icache factor hash lock into functions npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 36/52] fs: icache per-bucket inode hash locks npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 37/52] fs: icache lazy lru npiggin
2010-06-24 9:52 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:59 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 8:38 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:46 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 38/52] fs: icache RCU free inodes npiggin
2010-06-30 8:57 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 39/52] fs: icache rcu walk for i_sb_list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 40/52] fs: dcache improve scalability of pseudo filesystems npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 41/52] fs: icache reduce atomics npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 42/52] fs: icache per-cpu last_ino allocator npiggin
2010-06-24 9:48 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 43/52] fs: icache per-cpu nr_inodes counter npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 44/52] fs: icache per-CPU sb inode lists and locks npiggin
2010-06-30 9:26 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 45/52] fs: icache RCU hash lookups npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 46/52] fs: icache reduce locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 47/52] fs: keep inode with backing-dev npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 48/52] fs: icache split IO and LRU lists npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 49/52] fs: icache scale writeback list locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 50/52] mm: implement per-zone shrinker npiggin
2010-06-24 10:06 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:32 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-30 6:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 51/52] fs: per-zone dentry and inode LRU npiggin
2010-06-30 10:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:13 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 52/52] fs: icache less I_FREEING time npiggin
2010-06-30 10:13 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 7:12 ` [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-25 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 11:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 17:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-06 17:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-01 17:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-02 4:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-30 17:08 ` Frank Mayhar
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