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From: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"robert.richter@amd.com" <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	"acme@redhat.com" <acme@redhat.com>,
	"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"dzickus@redhat.com" <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	"gorcunov@gmail.com" <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	"fweisbec@gmail.com" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] perf: show package power consumption in perf
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:43:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282185811.11858.92.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282134329.1926.3918.camel@laptop>

On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 20:25 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 15:59 +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> > Hi, all,
> > 
> > RAPL(running average power limit) is a new feature which provides
> > mechanisms to enforce power consumption limit, on some new processors.
> > 
> > Generally speaking, by using RAPL, OS can set a power budget in a
> > certain time window, and let Hardware to throttle the processor
> > P/T-state to meet this energy limitation.
> > 
> > RAPL also provides a new MSR, i.e. MSR_PKG_ENERGY_STATUS, which reports
> > the total amount of energy consumed by the package.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if to support RAPL or not, but anyway, it sounds like a
> > good idea to export the energy status in perf.
> > 
> > So a new perf pmu and event to show the package energy consumed is
> > introduced in this patch.
> > 
> > Here is what I get after applying the three patches,
> > 
> > #./perf stat -e energy test
> > Performance counter stats for 'test':
> > 
> > 	202	Joules cost by package
> > 7.926001238	seconds time elapsed
> > 
> > 
> > Note that this patch set is made based on Peter's perf-pmu branch,
> > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/peterz/linux-2.6-perf.git
> >  which provides better interfaces to register/unregister a new pmu.
> > 
> > any comment are welcome. :)
> 
> 
> Nice,.. however:
> 
>  - if it is a pure read-only counter without sampling support,
>    expose it as such, don't fudge in the hrtimer stuff. Simply
>    fail to create a sampling event.
> 
>    SH has the same problem for its 'normal' PMU, the solution is
>    to use event groups, Matt was looking at adding support to
>    perf-record for that, if creating a sampling event fails, fall
>    back to {hrtimer, $event} groups.
> 
>  - since its a free-running, non-configurable counter, you can indeed
>    act like its a 'software' event in that you can schedule consumers
>    without constraints, however I don't think the PERF_COUNT_SW_* space
>    is the right way to expose this counter.
> 
>    Better would be to use the sysfs stuff Lin has been working on (for

Sorry that I have no good idea how to export the various tracepoints
events automatically, so this work will take time.

Lin Ming

>    which I still need to catch up on the latest discussions), it would
>    then be tied to the pmu instance and appear/disappear when you load/
>    unload the module.
> 
>    However for testing purposes I see why you'd want to have _a_
>    interface :-)
> 
> - it would be nice if you'd write the cpu detection a bit more readable,
>   also, it looks like you forgot to check x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_INTEL.
> 
> > +static int __init intel_rapl_init(void)
> > +{
> > +	/*
> > +	 * RAPL features are only supported on processors have a CPUID
> > +	 * signature with DisplayFamily_DisplayModel of 06_2AH, 06_2DH
> > +	 */
> > +	if (boot_cpu_data.x86 != 0x06 ||
> > +	    (boot_cpu_data.x86_model != 0x2A &&
> > +	    boot_cpu_data.x86_model != 0x2D))
> > +		return -ENODEV;
> > +
> > +	if (rapl_check_unit())
> > +		return -ENODEV;
> > +
> > +	perf_pmu_register(&rapl_pmu);
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> 
> Maybe something like (see intel_pmu_init() for example):
> 
>   if (boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor != X86_VENDOR_INTEL)
>     return -ENODEV;
> 
>   if (boot_cpu_data.x86 != 0x06)
>     return -ENODEV;
> 
>   switch (boot_cpu_data.x86_model) {
>   case 0x2A: /* sandybridge ?! 32nm */
>   case 0x2D: /* othermodel 32nm */
>     break;
> 
>   default:
>     return -ENODEV;
>   }
> 
> Which again reminds me to ask of Intel, a comprehensive x86_model list,
> please?
> 
> Alternatively, you can create a X86_FEATURE_RAPL and simply use
> boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_RAPL) (much like intel_ds_init() has).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-19  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-18  7:59 Zhang Rui
2010-08-18 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-18 12:41   ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  3:28     ` Lin Ming
2010-08-19  7:54       ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  8:15         ` Lin Ming
2010-08-19  8:31         ` Zhang Rui
2010-08-19  8:32           ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  9:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-21  1:18               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-21  9:30                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-23  9:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-19  9:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20  1:44         ` Zhang Rui
2010-08-20  9:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 12:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-20 21:34               ` acme
2010-08-19  2:43   ` Lin Ming [this message]
2010-08-19  8:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20  0:21       ` Lin Ming

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