From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753308Ab0IVQo1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:34117 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752650Ab0IVQoZ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:44:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events From: Peter Zijlstra To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Jean Pihet , Thomas Renninger , Ingo Molnar , Len Brown , arjan@infradead.org, Kevin Hilman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@lesswatts.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <4C9A2FB3.105@linux.intel.com> References: <201009171736.14170.trenn@suse.de> <20100917162412.GB3341@elte.hu> <201009180026.59482.trenn@suse.de> <4C9A21AD.1000800@linux.intel.com> <4C9A2FB3.105@linux.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:43:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1285173835.2275.1026.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 09:32 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > What are the apps that are using it? I know about builtin-timechart, > > pytimechart. Is powertop using this as well? > > powertop 2.x codebase is as well. > > and a bunch of tools we have internal here at Intel. > > the thing with ABIs is that you don't know how many users you have.. at > least here you know the lower bound is 3 different tools that are open > source. > .... and likely many local tools that aren't. These tools should be smart enough to look up the tracepoint name, fail it its not available, read the tracepoint format, again fail if not compatible. I really object to treating tracepoints as ABI and being tied to any implementation details due to that. Tools really should be flexible and allow for change.