From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754590Ab0IVS0x (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:26:53 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:52834 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754062Ab0IVS0w convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:26:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events From: Peter Zijlstra To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Jean Pihet , Thomas Renninger , Ingo Molnar , Len Brown , arjan@infradead.org, Kevin Hilman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1285179355.26872.27.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> References: <201009171736.14170.trenn@suse.de> <20100917162412.GB3341@elte.hu> <201009180026.59482.trenn@suse.de> <4C9A21AD.1000800@linux.intel.com> <4C9A2FB3.105@linux.intel.com> <1285173835.2275.1026.camel@laptop> <4C9A37AE.2010509@linux.intel.com> <1285176629.2275.1033.camel@laptop> <1285179355.26872.27.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:26:40 +0200 Message-ID: <1285180000.2275.1036.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 14:15 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 19:30 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 10:06 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > That said, I really didn't read this discussion much, but your stance > > seems to be that any tracepoint you use must stay valid, and I object to > > that. > > We could add a TRACE_EVENT_ABI() as Ingo has been suggesting. If > anything, it could mean that the given tracepoint will always have the > same name. And perhaps the data it holds will always be there, but may > also be extended. I still don't see why you need TRACE_EVENT_ABI for that, if its the same name and the format can be extended you get the same results with what we've got. Apps need to read/parse the format thing anyway. > > > > What will do you do when we include a new scheduling policy and all the > > scheduler tracepoints need to change? (yes that's really going to > > happen) > > The tracepoint sched_switch should stay the same. We may add more data, > but the comm, pid, prio => comm, pid, prio, I don't see going away. Right, it would need additional fields. Preferably not only at the end. > > I'm not going to carry double tracepoints, and I'm not going to not > > merge that policy. > > Not sure what you mean by "double tracepoints" Two different tracepoints in the same location.