From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754440Ab0IVSav (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:30:51 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:42081 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753865Ab0IVSat convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:30:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events From: Peter Zijlstra To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Steven Rostedt , Arjan van de Ven , Jean Pihet , Thomas Renninger , Len Brown , arjan@infradead.org, Kevin Hilman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20100922182356.GB9058@elte.hu> References: <20100917162412.GB3341@elte.hu> <201009180026.59482.trenn@suse.de> <4C9A21AD.1000800@linux.intel.com> <4C9A2FB3.105@linux.intel.com> <1285173835.2275.1026.camel@laptop> <4C9A37AE.2010509@linux.intel.com> <1285176629.2275.1033.camel@laptop> <1285179355.26872.27.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> <20100922182356.GB9058@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:30:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1285180233.2275.1038.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 20:23 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > We could add a TRACE_EVENT_ABI() as Ingo has been suggesting. [...] > > That would be rather useful. > > We could still be flexible about experimental tracepoints (they dont > hurt), but apps should stick to ABI bits - or at least not complain when > non-ABI tracepoints change for good reasons. (arbitrary, avoidable > changes are still bad obviously, regardless of the type of the > tracepoint) > > We'd be more stringent with marking tracepoints an ABI. > > So yes, this would be lovely to have. Why? As long as we mandate that apps need to fully parse the format stuff anyway, it doesn't buy us much.