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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <guenter.roeck@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] include/linux/kernel.h: Add config option for    pr_fmt(fmt)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:10:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1288390250.28828.228.camel@Joe-Laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101028104354.6aaca07c@endymion.delvare>

On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:43 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:54:36 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 09:35 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:41:41 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 11:03 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:19:42 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > > > Change the default #define pr_fmt(fmt) from:
> > > > > > 	- #define pr_fmt(fmt) fmt
> > > > > > to:
> > > > > > 	- #define pr_fmt(fmt) KBUILD_MODNAME ": " fmt
> > > > > > This will standard use of prefixes and prevent the
> > > > > > addition of new #defines when using pr_<level>.
> > > > > I'm all for it!
> > > > > > Adds a config option to use the old style if desired.
> > > > > Not sure what the idea is. Once  pr_fmt() includes the module name, we
> > > > > will drop hard-coded prefixes in all log messages throughout the kernel
> > > > > tree. Once this is done, a kernel built with PR_FMT_IS_KBUILD_MODNAME=n
> > > > > would become horribly confusing.
> > > > True.  The idea is to allow a transition period and remove
> > > > this PR_FMT_IS_KBUILD_MODNAME config option later.
> > > I don't buy this, sorry. During the "transition period", neither value
> > > of this option will produce good results. One will lead to duplicate
> > > prefixes and the other will lead to missing prefixes.
> > So why don't you change it in your kernel.h and include that
> > in linux-next and see how many complaints you get.
> It would seem awkward that the i2c or hwmon tree would touch kernel.h.

> Besides, linux-next is meant for integration testing. We already know
> that the change will integrate fine, in that it won't cause a build
> failure or runtime crash. We also know that, without the tree-wide
> cleanup of many driver, the change will cause duplicate prefixes in
> many messages.
> 
> There's little point in testing something we know will not be good
> enough. Better prepare all the driver patches, and test the whole thing
> when it's ready. I know it will be a very large and intrusive patchset,
> but this can certainly be done with Andrew's support.

I think you underestimate the time, effort and acceptance
levels by the various arches and maintainers required.

Also, it's not just drivers, it's arch, lib, and kernel.

A short term issue might be .text expansion of embedded
platforms that use CONFIG_PRINTK.

It doesn't look as if too many people care though.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-29 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-22  2:19 Joe Perches
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1010220131320.7016@localhost.localdomain>
2010-10-22 22:23   ` [PATCH] drivers/acpi: Add and use pr_fmt(fmt) Joe Perches
2010-10-26  9:03 ` [RFC PATCH] include/linux/kernel.h: Add config option for pr_fmt(fmt) Jean Delvare
2010-10-27 17:41   ` Joe Perches
2010-10-28  4:28     ` Guenter Roeck
2010-10-28  7:35     ` Jean Delvare
2010-10-28  7:54       ` Joe Perches
2010-10-28  8:43         ` Jean Delvare
2010-10-29 22:10           ` Joe Perches [this message]
2010-11-08 12:33             ` Jean Delvare
2010-11-08 16:55               ` Guenter Roeck
2010-11-08 17:16                 ` Joe Perches
2010-11-09  3:07                   ` Guenter Roeck
2010-11-09  8:42                     ` Jean Delvare
2010-11-09 16:16                       ` Guenter Roeck

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