From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delegate unknown module parameters to interested parties
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:05:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1289437553.12418.217.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201011111105.09255.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:05 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>
> > Yep, this way we could even enable tracepoints that are in the init
> > section.
>
> *Exactly* how would it be used though? Please provide a synopsis for
> someone unaware of what tracing does these days?
Well, if you have a tracepoint in the module, and you want to enable it
as soon as the module is loaded, it would be nice to have that ability.
>
> Because we could compile an extra module_parm() into the module using
> modpost, for example, at a cost of an extra 16/32 bytes per module.
>
> > But, personally, I like the generic addition. Perhaps others will hook into
> > it without fear of having to hack the module code, which can be quite
> > intimidating to some.
>
> We *all* want to build infrastructure; when other coders are forced to use
> it we rise up the kernel dominance hierarchy. Ook ook! (Every Unix app has
> its own config language for the same reason: the author distils the mental
> sweat of the users into some kind of Elixer of Coder Hubris).
Note, I would have just done the hack, but I liked Chris's generic
approach. /me ook ooks Chris!
>
> Yet abstractions obfuscate: let's resist our primal urges to add another
> speed hump on the lengthening road to kernel expertese.
Adding a generic way to do global module options is a primal urge?
>
> And this one's classicly easy: in single uses cases we always get the
> infrastructure wrong for future users anyway, so let's not do it until
> we have more than one user.
OK, we can add the hack for now. But perhaps have an archive of this
patch (maybe even sneak a link to it in the change log).
Hmm, we can just add:
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-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-11 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-09 9:12 [PATCH 1/4] tracing: introduce for_each_token macro Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 9:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] tracing: introduce trace_set_clr_module_event Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 11:23 ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 11:27 ` Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 13:20 ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 13:31 ` Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 13:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-09 14:06 ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 13:59 ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 14:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-09 14:11 ` [PATCH] Delegate unknown module parameters to interested parties Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 14:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-10 5:51 ` Rusty Russell
2010-11-10 13:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-11 0:35 ` Rusty Russell
2010-11-11 1:05 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2010-11-09 9:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] tracing: update trace-events-sample.c Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 9:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] tracing: update the trace/events.txt documentation Yuanhan Liu
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