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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: tomlins@CAM.ORG
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:37:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299.1003815438@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:10:44 -0400." <20011022221044.B0B5D18F1A@oscar.casa.dyndns.org>

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:10:44 -0400, 
Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@CAM.ORG> wrote:
>Daniel Phillips wrote:
>> If you want to argue for something, argue for giving config the ability to
>> apply patches, that would be lots of fun.
>
>Actually this _is_ a workable solution.  IBM has done it for decades with 
>its 'VM' operating system.
>
>You get a base file, a couple of control files, and a lists of patches.  
>When you go to build a nucleus (translate kernel) the patches are applied
>and the source assembled...

Same with the other mainframe systems, using something like SMP (System
Mangling/Management Product) to track the interdependencies.  But that
only works when almost all of the patches come from a single source
which does integration testing before releasing them.  This method does
not work well with multiple sources, look at the hassles third party
vendors have to go through to keep up with IBM patches.

Keith Owens (who spent far too many years fighting SMP)


  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-23  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-22 13:36 VM Michael T. Babcock
2001-10-22 14:02 ` VM Alan Cox
2001-10-22 18:00   ` VM Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 17:32     ` VM Marcelo Tosatti
2001-10-22 18:59     ` VM Daniel Phillips
2001-10-22 22:10       ` VM Ed Tomlinson
2001-10-23  5:37         ` Keith Owens [this message]
2001-10-23  5:38       ` VM Keith Owens
2001-10-23 16:15         ` VM Daniel Phillips
2001-10-23 16:14           ` VM David Lang
2001-10-24 13:54             ` VM J . A . Magallon
2001-10-24 18:11               ` VM Luigi Genoni
2001-10-24 14:44             ` VM Daniel Phillips
2001-10-24 16:24               ` VM David Lang
2001-10-24 17:56                 ` VM Daniel Phillips
2001-10-24 16:50                   ` VM David Lang
2001-10-24 18:29                     ` VM Daniel Phillips
2001-10-22 20:21     ` VM Alan Cox
2001-10-22 22:35   ` VM J . A . Magallon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-22 21:33 VM Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
2001-10-22 21:44 ` VM Oliver Xymoron
2001-10-23  4:27   ` VM Patrick McFarland
2001-10-23 20:04     ` VM bill davidsen
2001-10-23 20:13       ` VM Rik van Riel
2001-10-23 22:15       ` VM Patrick McFarland
2001-10-17  7:55 VM Leeuw van der, Tim
2001-10-17 11:08 ` VM Liu Tao
2001-10-17  2:31 VM Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
     [not found] <E7405EE40489D411B30F00508BF38F8D049677E2@wlvexc01.diginsite.com>
2001-10-16 16:44 ` VM David Lang
2001-10-16 18:11   ` VM Rik van Riel
2001-10-16 22:31     ` VM Luigi Genoni
     [not found] <20011015232245.F1314@localhost>
2001-10-16  1:12 ` VM Patrick McFarland
2001-10-16  0:53   ` VM David Lang
2001-10-16 12:28     ` VM John Levon
2001-10-16 12:34       ` VM Tobias Ringstrom
2001-10-16 16:17       ` VM David Lang
2001-10-16  1:57   ` VM Linus Torvalds
2001-10-16  3:08     ` VM Patrick McFarland
2001-10-16  3:15       ` VM Patrick McFarland
2001-10-16 23:24       ` VM Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-16  3:15     ` VM Robert Love
2001-10-16  3:17       ` VM Patrick McFarland
     [not found]         ` <1003202417.861.6.camel@phantasy>
2001-10-16  3:28           ` VM Robert Love
2001-10-16  5:08             ` VM safemode
2001-10-16  4:40               ` VM David Lang
2001-10-16 13:34                 ` VM safemode
2001-10-16 14:19                   ` VM Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-16 16:14                     ` VM Rik van Riel
2001-10-16  8:14     ` VM Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-10-16 13:36       ` VM Luigi Genoni
2001-10-16 14:04         ` VM bill davidsen
2001-10-16 14:11         ` VM Rik van Riel
2001-10-16 14:41         ` VM Martin Dalecki
2001-10-16 10:26     ` VM Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-10-16 23:38       ` VM Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-17  0:49         ` VM Rik van Riel
2001-10-17  1:15           ` VM Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-16 13:51     ` VM Bill Davidsen
2001-10-16  8:08   ` VM Alan Cox

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