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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	tglx@linutronix.de, andi@firstfloor.org, roland@redhat.com,
	rth@redhat.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, avi@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	sam@ravnborg.org, michael@ellerman.id.au,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] jump label: update for .39
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299780241.15854.393.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D790A13.4060705@caviumnetworks.com>

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:27 -0800, David Daney wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 07:38 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> >> Can you explain what would prevent gcc from aligning these 3 pointers
> >> (total of 24 bytes on 64-bit architectures) on 32-bytes ?
> 
> I can:
> 
> http://www.x86-64.org/documentation/abi.pdf Section 3.1.2:
> 
>     Aggregates and Unions

Note, we are not dealing with C or arrays, but with inline assembly, and
the linker.

+static __always_inline bool arch_static_branch(struct jump_label_key *key)
+{
+       asm goto("1:\tnop\n\t"
+               "nop\n\t"
+               ".pushsection __jump_table,  \"aw\"\n\t"
+               WORD_INSN " 1b, %l[l_yes], %0\n\t"
+               ".popsection\n\t"
+               : :  "i" (key) : : l_yes);
+       return false;
+l_yes:
+       return true;
+}


That push/pop section part creates the structure we are talking about.
It's made up of three pointers. The address of the nop, the address of
the label l_yes and the address of the key.

Now its up to the linker to decide where to place that element. Can we
guarantee that it will always be on an 8 byte boundery?
Hmm, I wonder if we could add a .ALIGN sizeof(long) before that?

Now if we have two object files where there's a list of these jump
labels, and then when the linker concatenates them we have something
like:

 .long f1-a, .long f1-b, .long f1-c
 [ the above is 24 bytes ] so
 .long [ pad 8 bytes]
 .long f2-a, .long f2-b, .long f2-c ...

Where f1 is object file 1 and f2 is object file 2. File 1 has a jump
label table that holds a total of 24 bytes, and when the linker added
the next jump label it padded it with 8 bytes into that section. The
question remains, is that OK for the linker to do that, even though we
specified in vmlinux.ld:

        /* implement dynamic printk debug */                            \
+       . = ALIGN(8);                                                   \
+       VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start___jump_table) = .;                       \
+       *(__jump_table)                                                 \
+       VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__stop___jump_table) = .;                        \

But then again, maybe it will break on 32 bit, where the above file 1
would have a total of 12 bytes, it may pad it with 4 bytes to keep that
8 byte alignment.
  

>     Structures and unions assume the alignment of their most strictly
>     aligned component. Each member is assigned to the lowest
>     available offset with the appropriate alignment. The size of any
>     object is always a multiple of the object‘s alignment.
> 
>     An array uses the same alignment as its elements, except that a
>     local or global array variable of length at least 16 bytes or a C99
>     variable-length array variable always has alignment of at least 16
>     bytes.
> 
>     Structure and union objects can require padding to meet size and
>     alignment constraints. The contents of any padding is undefined.
> 
> I don't think it is explicitly stated, but it is also true that the size 
> is the smallest value that meets the above constraints.

Could be true, but gcc has no idea that this data is an array. It's
really up to the linker.

> 
> 
> >> Also, could
> >> you point out what would refrain the linker from aligning the start of
> >> object sections on the next 32-bytes (thus power of two) address
> >> multiple ?
> >
> 
> The rules of the ABI are quite specific.  It would be a toolchain bug if 
> this were messed up.
> 
> 
> 
> > Maybe it would be just easier to add another long ;)
> 
> Maybe we should audit all the data structures in the entire kernel and 
> add manual padding to power of 2 boundaries.

We are not worried about normal C data structures, we are worried about
data structures that are created by inline assembly and the linker. As
we did have a bug with the trace_events code. But that dealt with a
structure that was not strictly naturally word aligned. It had "int" as
well as pointers.

> 
> >
> > Seriously, it would. Then it would be 32 bytes on 64bit and 16 bytes on
> > 32bit. Then I guess we can have our guarantee without doing a large
> > change to have this indirect pointer and still waste sizeof(long) bytes
> > in having it.
> >
> > Just insert a long "Reserved" word.
> >
> 
> I disagree.  Wasting memory to work around non-existent hypothetical 
> bugs seems wrong to me.

The linker may never cause the issue. I haven't seen any problems with
things that were naturally word aligned. But then, all the places that
we do this has been naturally word aligned as well as a power of 2
(extables for example).

Thus, if we do "waste" space, I rather just add the 'Reserved' word and
which makes it a power of 2 and be done with it.

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-10 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-09 20:47 Jason Baron
2011-03-09 20:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] jump label: introduce static_branch() interface Jason Baron
2011-03-10 20:54   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 20:56   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-11  2:05     ` Ralf Baechle
2011-03-11  2:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 21:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 21:18     ` Jason Baron
2011-03-11  2:02       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-03-09 20:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] dynamic debug: add jump label support Jason Baron
2011-03-10  3:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] jump label: update for .39 Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 14:11   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-03-10 14:46   ` Jason Baron
     [not found]   ` <BLU0-SMTP690BB959832A97E002293396C80@phx.gbl>
2011-03-10 15:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 17:27       ` David Daney
2011-03-10 18:04         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2011-03-10 18:20           ` Jason Baron
2011-03-10 18:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 18:47               ` David Daney
2011-03-10 18:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 18:57                   ` David Daney
2011-03-10 19:25                     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 19:45                       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 19:53                         ` Jason Baron
2011-03-10 20:01                           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 21:22                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                         ` <BLU0-SMTP311155BEBE5F141636A6E596C80@phx.gbl>
2011-03-10 21:42                           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 22:11                             ` David Daney
2011-03-10 22:24                               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 22:48                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                             ` <BLU0-SMTP101D168109508CC1B82F0E496C80@phx.gbl>
2011-03-10 23:16                               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 23:25                                 ` David Daney
2011-03-10 23:32                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-10 23:43                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 23:51                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]                         ` <BLU0-SMTP39EE03AE86CF0F0E5C570596C80@phx.gbl>
2011-03-11  0:38                           ` Ralf Baechle
2011-03-11  1:19                             ` Michael Ellerman
2011-03-11  2:39                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-03-10 21:39                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-03-10 21:11         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-03-10 21:14       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]       ` <BLU0-SMTP2489AC44910467F37596A496C80@phx.gbl>
2011-03-10 21:34         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-10 22:02           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-03-10 16:41 ` Jan Glauber

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