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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	security@kernel.org, acpi4asus-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, open-iscsi@googlegroups.com,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Security] [PATCH 00/20] world-writable files in sysfs and debugfs
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:32:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1300206751.11313.3.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110315160804.GA3380@albatros>

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 19:08 +0300, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 07:50 -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> >      1. Did anyone actually check for capabilities before assuming world
> >         writeable files were wrong?
> 
> I didn't check all these files as I haven't got these hardware :-)

You don't need the hardware to check ... the question becomes is a
capabilities test sitting in the implementation or not.

>   But
> as I can "chmod a+w" all sysfs files on my machine and they all become
> sensible to nonroot writes, I suppose there is nothing preventing
> nonroot users from writing to these buggy sysfs files.  As you can see,
> there are no capable() checks in these drivers in open() or write().
> 
> >      2. Even if there aren't any capabilities checks in the implementing
> >         routines, should there be (are we going the separated
> >         capabilities route vs the monolithic root route)?
> 
> IMO, In any case old good DAC security model must not be obsoleted just
> because someone thinks that MAC or anything else is more convenient for
> him.  If sysfs is implemented via filesystem then it must support POSIX
> permissions semantic.  MAC is very good in _some_ cases, but not instead
> of DAC.

Um, I'm not sure that's even an issue.  capabilities have CAP_ADMIN
which is precisely the same check as owner == root.  We use this a lot
because ioctls ignore the standard unix DAC model.

James




      reply	other threads:[~2011-03-15 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1296818921.git.segoon@openwall.com>
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 01/20] mach-omap2: mux: world-writable debugfs files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 20:09   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 02/20] mach-omap2: pm: world-writable debugfs timer files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 20:10   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-04 22:53   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 03/20] mach-omap2: smartreflex: world-writable debugfs voltage files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 20:10   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-02-04 22:54   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-02-07  5:33     ` Menon, Nishanth
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 04/20] mach-ux500: mbox-db5500: world-writable sysfs fifo file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 05/20] leds: lp5521: world-writable sysfs engine* files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 06/20] leds: lp5523: world-writable engine* sysfs files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 07/20] video: sn9c102: world-wirtable " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 15:29   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-02-04 20:28   ` Luca Risolia
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 08/20] mfd: ab3100: world-writable debugfs *_priv files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-18 17:01   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 09/20] mfd: ab3500: world-writable debugfs register-* files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 10/20] mfd: ab8500: " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 11/20] misc: ep93xx_pwm: world-writable sysfs files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 12/20] net: can: at91_can: " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:42   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-02-04 21:06     ` David Miller
2011-02-07 11:38       ` About bittiming calculation result Tomoya MORINAGA
2011-02-07 12:00         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-02-07 15:52           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-02-08  1:27             ` Tomoya MORINAGA
2011-02-08  7:57               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-02-08  1:09           ` Tomoya MORINAGA
2011-02-08  3:29             ` Bhupesh SHARMA
2011-02-08  4:11               ` Tomoya MORINAGA
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 13/20] net: can: janz-ican3: world-writable sysfs termination file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 21:06   ` David Miller
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 14/20] platform: x86: acer-wmi: world-writable sysfs threeg file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:23 ` [PATCH 15/20] platform: x86: asus_acpi: world-writable procfs files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:53   ` Corentin Chary
2011-02-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 16/20] platform: x86: tc1100-wmi: world-writable sysfs wireless and jogdial files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 17/20] rtc: rtc-ds1511: world-writable sysfs nvram file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 18/20] scsi: aic94xx: world-writable sysfs update_bios file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 19/20] scsi: iscsi: world-writable sysfs priv_sess file Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-13  8:28   ` Mike Christie
2011-02-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 20/20] fs: ubifs: world-writable debugfs dump_* files Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-06 15:16   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-02-21 11:42 ` [PATCH 00/20] world-writable files in sysfs and debugfs Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-12 20:23 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-14 22:18   ` [Security] " Andrew Morton
2011-03-15  2:26   ` James Bottomley
2011-03-15  3:09     ` [Security] " Greg KH
2011-03-15 11:50       ` James Bottomley
2011-03-15 14:18         ` Greg KH
2011-03-15 14:25           ` James Bottomley
2011-03-15 16:08         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-15 16:32           ` James Bottomley [this message]

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