From: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>
To: Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
miklos@szeredi.hu, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Unionmount status?
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:50:08 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302756608.2854.10.camel@perseus.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=Z1CQm=u2Q1VCHfr=53n5qTC=7bA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 21:47 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 13 April 2011 21:11, Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 04/13/2011 02:58 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>
> >> On 13 April 2011 19:26, Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 04/12/2011 05:36 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12 April 2011 22:31, Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04/12/2011 11:00 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> as some already know the Unionmount VFS union which has been in
> >>>>>> development for some years now is the only True Union (TM) that can be
> >>>>>> accepted into the kernel mainline by the VFS maintainers (for reasons
> >>>>>> of their own which you can surely find if you search the web or ask
> >>>>>> them directly).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The current UnionMount version that can be found here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/val/linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ext2_works
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> works for me as good as aufs does. That is I can build a live CD using
> >>>>>> this unioning solution and it boots and runs without any apparent
> >>>>>> issues.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There are probably many possible uses of the union which I did not
> >>>>>> test nor did I test long term stability of using the unioned
> >>>>>> filesystem. As far as ephemeral live systems go it works fine for me,
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The issue is that while the code is (nearly) finished it is not yet
> >>>>>> merged into mainline and as I am not familiar with the details of
> >>>>>> ever-changing Linux VFS layer forward-porting this code to current
> >>>>>> kernels is somewhat challenging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the plan with unionmount now?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is required for it to be merged into mainline?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Michal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Michal,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> People are actively looking to see what union mount (or overlayfs)
> >>>>> solution
> >>>>> to pursue. Val has shifted her focus away from kernel hacking these
> >>>>> days,
> >>>>> but did refresh her patch set in the last month or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not aware of such refreshed patch set, at least it is not
> >>>> published in her repo.
> >>>>
> >>> Val posted the refreshed patches with the title on March 22nd:
> >>>
> >>> http://lwn.net/Articles/435019/
> >>>
> >> That article references the same four months old repo which I
> >> mentioned at the start of the thread, only a slightly different
> >> branch.
> >>
> >> While it maybe useful for testing unionmount (which I already tried)
> >> it is not a patch against current kernel which could be used to build
> >> current live images.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michal
> >
> > She did post the patch series that same date in March - you can probably
> > grab the series from linux-fsdevel, look for this series:
> >
> > "[PATCH 00/74] Union mounts version something or other"
> >
> > Al Viro was planning on looking at her refreshed patches (he had reviewed
> > them with her in person), but that is not going to happen any time soon so
> > getting more eyes and testing would be great!
> >
>
> Even gmame can't collect the patches back from the ML, I don't want to try.
>
> However, the discussion suggests that these are exactly the 4 months
> old branch ending in a commit with the summary "Temporary commit"
> which did not inspire confidence in me so I used the previous (also 4
> moths old) branch.
Yes, that's the impression I have too.
I believe David was working to update the patches and his silence
indicates he is probably bogged down with other priority work. If that's
the case, and your still interested, I might be able to help updating
the series some time soon. I haven't reviewed any of Val's series posts
for a while now so I'd need to catch up with the current state of the
project first.
I guess the first thing is to find out if David has made any progress,
David?
As for the overlayfs from Miklos I haven't looked closely at it but
since Miklos hasn't replied so far I'm guessing there's still a way to
with that as well.
Ian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-14 4:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-12 15:00 Michal Suchanek
2011-04-12 20:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-12 21:36 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 14:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-04-13 15:13 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14 8:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-14 9:48 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-14 9:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 11:22 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 11:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 11:51 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 12:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 12:34 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 12:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 21:48 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-15 22:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-18 13:31 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-19 20:04 ` [PATCH] tmpfs: implement generic xattr support Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-20 2:18 ` Phillip Lougher
2011-04-20 13:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21 6:59 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 9:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21 10:59 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 14:58 ` Jordi Pujol
2011-04-21 15:22 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 15:43 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 17:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21 19:17 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-20 16:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-12 4:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-05-12 7:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-05-12 12:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-05-12 14:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-05-12 16:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-18 13:34 ` Unionmount status? Michal Suchanek
2011-04-18 13:37 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 17:26 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-13 18:58 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 19:11 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-13 19:47 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14 4:50 ` Ian Kent [this message]
2011-04-14 9:32 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14 9:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-14 13:21 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-14 14:54 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 16:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-14 19:14 ` David Howells
2011-06-29 9:39 ` Union mount and overlayfs bake off? Ric Wheeler
2011-06-29 11:40 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-29 10:17 ` David Howells
2011-06-30 12:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10 8:28 ` Union mount and lockdep design issues Ric Wheeler
2011-07-10 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11 8:35 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 11:01 ` David Howells
2011-07-11 12:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11 13:36 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 13:50 ` Ian Kent
2011-07-11 16:17 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 17:23 ` Ian Kent
2011-07-11 18:08 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-12 8:30 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-12 9:58 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-12 11:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-12 18:49 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-13 9:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-13 12:02 ` David Howells
2011-07-13 13:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-14 0:57 ` David Howells
2011-07-11 13:54 ` David Howells
2011-07-11 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11 14:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] VFS: Pass mount flags to sget() David Howells
2011-07-11 14:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] union-mount: Duplicate the i_{, dir_}mutex lock classes and use for upper layer David Howells
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