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From: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>
To: Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	miklos@szeredi.hu, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Unionmount status?
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:50:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302756608.2854.10.camel@perseus.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=Z1CQm=u2Q1VCHfr=53n5qTC=7bA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 21:47 +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 13 April 2011 21:11, Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 04/13/2011 02:58 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>
> >> On 13 April 2011 19:26, Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 04/12/2011 05:36 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12 April 2011 22:31, Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com>    wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04/12/2011 11:00 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> as some already know the Unionmount VFS union which has been in
> >>>>>> development for some years now is the only True Union (TM) that can be
> >>>>>> accepted into the kernel mainline by the VFS maintainers (for reasons
> >>>>>> of their own which you can surely find if you search the web or ask
> >>>>>> them directly).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The current UnionMount version that can be found here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/val/linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ext2_works
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> works for me as good as aufs does. That is I can build a live CD using
> >>>>>> this unioning solution and it boots and runs without any apparent
> >>>>>> issues.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There are probably many possible uses of the union which I did not
> >>>>>> test nor did I test long term stability of using the unioned
> >>>>>> filesystem. As far as ephemeral live systems go it works fine for me,
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The issue is that while the code is (nearly) finished it is not yet
> >>>>>> merged into mainline and as I am not familiar with the details of
> >>>>>> ever-changing Linux VFS layer forward-porting this code to current
> >>>>>> kernels is somewhat challenging.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the plan with unionmount now?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is required  for it to be merged into mainline?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Michal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Michal,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> People are actively looking to see what union mount (or overlayfs)
> >>>>> solution
> >>>>> to pursue. Val has shifted her focus away from kernel hacking these
> >>>>> days,
> >>>>> but did refresh her patch set in the last month or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not aware of such refreshed patch set, at least it is not
> >>>> published in her repo.
> >>>>
> >>> Val posted the refreshed patches with the title on March 22nd:
> >>>
> >>> http://lwn.net/Articles/435019/
> >>>
> >> That article references the same four months old repo which I
> >> mentioned at the start of the thread, only a slightly different
> >> branch.
> >>
> >> While it maybe useful for testing unionmount (which I already tried)
> >> it is not a patch against current kernel which could be used to build
> >> current live images.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michal
> >
> > She did post the patch series that same date in March - you can probably
> > grab the series from linux-fsdevel, look for this series:
> >
> > "[PATCH 00/74] Union mounts version something or other"
> >
> > Al Viro was planning on looking at her refreshed patches (he had reviewed
> > them with her in person), but that is not going to happen any time soon so
> > getting more eyes and testing would be great!
> >
> 
> Even gmame can't collect the patches back from the ML, I don't want to try.
> 
> However, the discussion suggests that these are exactly the 4 months
> old branch ending in a commit with the summary "Temporary commit"
> which did not inspire confidence in me so I used the previous (also 4
> moths old) branch.

Yes, that's the impression I have too.

I believe David was working to update the patches and his silence
indicates he is probably bogged down with other priority work. If that's
the case, and your still interested, I might be able to help updating
the series some time soon. I haven't reviewed any of Val's series posts
for a while now so I'd need to catch up with the current state of the
project first.

I guess the first thing is to find out if David has made any progress,
David?

As for the overlayfs from Miklos I haven't looked closely at it but
since Miklos hasn't replied so far I'm guessing there's still a way to
with that as well.

Ian



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-14  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-12 15:00 Michal Suchanek
2011-04-12 20:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-12 21:36   ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 14:18     ` Jiri Kosina
2011-04-13 15:13       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14  8:38         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-14  9:48           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-14  9:58             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 11:22           ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 11:31             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 11:51               ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 12:29                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 12:34                   ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 12:48                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-15 21:48                   ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-15 22:18                   ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-18 13:31                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-19 20:04                       ` [PATCH] tmpfs: implement generic xattr support Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-20  2:18                         ` Phillip Lougher
2011-04-20 13:43                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21  6:59                             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21  9:08                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21 10:59                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 14:58                                   ` Jordi Pujol
2011-04-21 15:22                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 15:43                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-21 17:26                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-21 19:17                                           ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-20 16:00                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-12  4:20                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-05-12  7:52                           ` Michal Suchanek
2011-05-12 12:27                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-05-12 14:00                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-05-12 16:52                               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-18 13:34                     ` Unionmount status? Michal Suchanek
2011-04-18 13:37                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 17:26     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-13 18:58       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-13 19:11         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-13 19:47           ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14  4:50             ` Ian Kent [this message]
2011-04-14  9:32               ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-14  9:40                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-04-14 13:21                   ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-14 14:54                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-04-15 16:31                       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-04-14 19:14             ` David Howells
2011-06-29  9:39               ` Union mount and overlayfs bake off? Ric Wheeler
2011-06-29 11:40                 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-29 10:17               ` David Howells
2011-06-30 12:44                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10  8:28                 ` Union mount and lockdep design issues Ric Wheeler
2011-07-10 13:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11  8:35                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 11:01                   ` David Howells
2011-07-11 12:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11 13:36                       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 13:50                         ` Ian Kent
2011-07-11 16:17                           ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-11 17:23                             ` Ian Kent
2011-07-11 18:08                               ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-12  8:30                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-12  9:58                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-12 11:45                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-12 18:49                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-07-13  9:49                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-13 12:02                                 ` David Howells
2011-07-13 13:20                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-14  0:57                                   ` David Howells
2011-07-11 13:54                     ` David Howells
2011-07-11 14:02                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11 14:50                         ` [PATCH 1/2] VFS: Pass mount flags to sget() David Howells
2011-07-11 14:50                         ` [PATCH 2/2] union-mount: Duplicate the i_{, dir_}mutex lock classes and use for upper layer David Howells

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