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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/19] ARM: LPAE: add ISBs around MMU enabling code
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 17:02:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304956930.7658.84.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110509154822.GA18959@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 16:48 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:34:16PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 04:01:56PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > This doesn't work. From the ARM ARM (B1.3.3):
> > >
> > >         The execution state bits are the IT[7:0], J, E, and T bits. In
> > >         exception modes you can read or write these bits in the current
> > >         SPSR.
> > >         In the CPSR, unless the processor is in Debug state:
> > >         • The execution state bits, other than the E bit, are RAZ when
> > >         read by an MRS instruction.
> > >
> > > So reading the CPSR doesn't copy the T and E bits. Of course, we could
> > > set them explicitly but I find the ISB much simpler (and in practice we
> > > only need it for ARMv7 onwards but adding the ARMv6 in case we have a
> > > kernel compiled for both).
> >
> > Err.  If that's correct then the Linux kernel is totally broken, and
> > that's an incompatible change to the behaviour of the MRS and MSR
> > instructions which has gone unnoticed.
> >
> > We use "MRS reg, cpsr" for saving the IRQ state in SVC mode and
> > "MSR cpsr, reg" to restore the interrupt state.  If the T bit gets
> > reset by that, then Thumb kernels can never work.
> >
> > What you've just said tells me that our implementation of:
> > - arch_local_irq_save()
> > - arch_local_save_flags()
> > - arch_local_irq_restore()
> > won't work because we can't read or write the I and F bits using
> > MSR/MRS, even in SVC mode.
> >
> > What is the replacement method for doing this?
> >
> > If there isn't a replacement method...
> 
> And actually, that whole paragraph in the ARM ARM seems to be inconsistent
> with other bits of the ARM ARM.  For example:
> 
> In the CPSR, unless the processor is in Debug state:
> • The execution state bits, other than the E bit, are RAZ when read by
>   an MRS instruction.
> • Writes to the execution state bits, other than the E bit, by an MSR
>   instruction are:
>   — For ARMv7 and ARMv6T2, ignored in all modes.
>   — For architecture variants before ARMv6T2, ignored in User mode and
>     required to write zeros in privileged modes. If a nonzero value is
>     written in a privileged mode, behavior is UNPREDICTABLE.
> 
> Now, G.5.1 says this about ARMv6 (which is an 'architecture variants before
> ARMv6T2'):
> 
> ARMv6 and ARMv6K have the following differences:
> • Bits[26:25] are RAZ/WI.
> • Bits[15:10] are reserved.
> • The J and T bits of the CPSR must not be changed when the CPSR is written
>   by an MSR instruction, or else the behavior is UNPREDICTABLE. MSR
>   instructions exist only in ARM state in these architecture variants, so
>   this is equivalent to saying the MSR instructions in privileged modes must
>   treat these bits as SBZP. MSR instructions in User mode still ignore
>   writes to these bits.
> 
> The thing is, if you write zeros into the mode bits from supervisor mode
> (as required by B1.3.3), you're going to take the CPU back to 26-bit user
> mode, which on many CPUs is an undefined mode.

I still don't get what you mean. B1.3.3 paragraph above refers to the
"execution state bits, other than the E bit", IOW - IT[7:0], J and T.
>From the same B1.3.3:

        The execution state bits are the IT[7:0], J, E, and T bits.

The mode bits you are talking about are called M[4:0]. These are note
"execution state bits" and can be read by MRS.

-- 
Catalin



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-09 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-08 12:51 [PATCH v5 00/19] ARM: Add support for the Large Physical Address Extensions Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 01/19] ARM: LPAE: Use long long printk format for displaying the pud Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 02/19] ARM: LPAE: add ISBs around MMU enabling code Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 21:41   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-09 10:22     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-09 10:32       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-09 10:59         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-09 12:05           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-09 13:36             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-09 15:01             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-09 15:34               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-09 15:38                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-09 15:48                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-09 16:02                   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 03/19] ARM: LPAE: Use unsigned long for __phys_to_virt and __virt_to_phys Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 21:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-16 17:28     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 04/19] ARM: LPAE: Make TTBR1 always point to swapper_pg_dir on ARMv7 Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 05/19] ARM: LPAE: Use PMD_(SHIFT|SIZE|MASK) instead of PGDIR_* Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 06/19] ARM: LPAE: Factor out 2-level page table definitions into separate files Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 07/19] ARM: LPAE: Add (pte|pmd|pgd|pgprot)val_t type definitions as u32 Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 08/19] ARM: LPAE: Use a mask for physical addresses in page table entries Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 09/19] ARM: LPAE: Introduce the 3-level page table format definitions Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 10/19] ARM: LPAE: Page table maintenance for the 3-level format Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 11/19] ARM: LPAE: MMU setup for the 3-level page table format Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 12/19] ARM: LPAE: Add fault handling support Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 13/19] ARM: LPAE: Add context switching support Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 14/19] ARM: LPAE: Add identity mapping support for the 3-level page table format Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 15/19] ARM: LPAE: Add support for cpu_v7_do_(suspend|resume) Catalin Marinas
2011-05-18  7:27   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-05-20 13:21     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-20 15:17       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-20 18:09       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-05-22 21:09         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-24  6:26           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 16/19] ARM: LPAE: Use generic dma_addr_t type definition Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 17/19] ARM: LPAE: mark memory banks with start > ULONG_MAX as highmem Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 18/19] ARM: LPAE: add support for ATAG_MEM64 Catalin Marinas
2011-05-08 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 19/19] ARM: LPAE: Add the Kconfig entries Catalin Marinas
2011-05-11 10:23 ` [PATCH 20/19] ARM: LPAE: Invalidate the TLB before freeing the PMD Catalin Marinas
2011-05-11 10:31   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-05-11 10:40     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-11 10:54   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-11 13:40     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-11 14:00       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-11 15:58         ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-23 16:54 ` [PATCH v5 00/19] ARM: Add support for the Large Physical Address Extensions Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-23 17:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-24 10:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-26 21:15     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-26 21:44       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-27  9:09         ` Catalin Marinas

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