From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>
To: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Richard Yao <ryao@ic.sunysb.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UNIX Compatibility
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:30:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1306409439.28597.81.camel@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c943132c8c364f95a91e3cf81cb0f2bd-mfwitten@gmail.com>
On Mit, 2011-05-25 at 15:17 +0000, Michael Witten wrote:
[...]
> What needs to die is the tyranny of the hackers.
The problem with that is, that it is replaced with a tyranny of some
others like marketing folks, sales droids or paper pushers - which is
even worse, especially if the "decision" is a compromise.
Think about why there are so many "bad" standards. Mainly because most
of them (if not all) are a compromise to fit to already existing
implementations of competing vendors ....
Or take the "unlink a directory gives EPERM" example: why is it
specified with an errno that indicates that the user is not allowed to
remove it (and not that the sys-call is the wrong one).
> Humans are capable of organizing themselves better than just acquiscing to
> whomever is capable of imposing himself fastest.
If it's with (self written) good patches, it's a good thing. Imposing
with a (not necessarily self-written) presentation at a meeting is
something completely different ....
Bernd
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-26 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-24 11:49 Richard Yao
2011-05-24 13:06 ` Theodore Tso
2011-05-24 13:54 ` Michael Witten
2011-05-24 14:49 ` Richard Yao
2011-05-24 18:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-24 18:31 ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25 4:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-25 14:20 ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25 14:36 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 15:17 ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25 17:38 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 20:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 11:30 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2011-05-26 11:30 ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2011-05-26 12:07 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 12:24 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2011-05-26 13:35 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 21:06 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-25 14:38 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 15:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-25 15:21 ` Michael Witten
2011-05-24 18:23 ` david
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