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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
To: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Enhance /dev/mem to allow read/write of arbitrary physical addresses
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:46:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1309160772.7689.9.camel@nathan.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=MeNcOhxU2TYvaC+xwebxcROnjcw@mail.gmail.com>

Américo Wang píše v Po 20. 06. 2011 v 10:42 +0800:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
> > Dne Pá 17. června 2011 11:30:32 Ingo Molnar napsal(a):
> >> * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
> >> > This patch series enhances /dev/mem, so that read and write is
> >> > possible at any address. The patchset includes actual
> >> > implementation for x86.
> >>
> >> This series lacks a description of why this is desired.
> >
> > Hi Ingo,
> >
> >> My strong opinion is that it's not desired at all: /dev/mem never
> >> worked beyond 4G addresses so by today it has become largely obsolete
> >> and is on the way out really.
> >>
> >> I'm aware of these current /dev/mem uses:
> >>
> >>  - Xorg maps below 4G non-RAM addresses and the video BIOS
> >>
> >>  - It used to have some debugging role but these days kexec and kgdb
> >>    has largely taken over that role - partly due to the 4G limit.
> >
> > It is still used as a "memory source" by Dave Anderson's crash utility for
> > live examination of a running system. Redhat has "overcome" the /dev/mem
> > deficiencies by writing an out-of-tree re-implementation of /dev/mem, which
> > uses /dev/crash instead. As it is an "unnecessary duplication of an existing
> > driver", this method was rejected by the project manager here at SUSE.
> >
> > The suggested alternative was to enhance (or fix) the existing driver. Without
> > this patch series there is no way to access high memory. In conjunction with
> > CONFIG_HIGHPTE, it makes the crash utility near to useless on anything with
> > high memory, because crash can no longer translate virtual to physical
> > addresses.
> >
> 
> How about /proc/kcore? AFAIK, it can access highmem, but Dave didn't consider
> it for some reason.

(Sorry for the dealy, I was on vacation.)

/proc/kcore is in fact supported by the crash utility and it does work
with highmem to some extent. Unfortunately, it cannot handle all of it,
because it is ELF32 format, so there's no way to describe regions beyond
4GB.

Petr Tesarik


  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-17  8:38 Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:43 ` [PATCH 01/10] Return EOF on out-of-bounds read from /dev/mem Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:44 ` [PATCH 02/10] (un)xlate_dev_mem_ptr: use phys_addr_t for the @phys parameter Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:45 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86: translate highmem /dev/mem pointers Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:45 ` [PATCH 04/10] ia64: change xlate_dev_mem_ptr's argument to phys_addr_t Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:45 ` [PATCH 05/10] valid_phys_addr_range: use phys_addr_t for the @addr parameter Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] sh: change valid_phys_addr_range's @addr param to phys_addr_t Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] arm: " Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] ia64: " Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:48 ` [PATCH 09/10] x86: provide arch-specific valid_phys_addr_range() Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  8:48 ` [PATCH 10/10] Allow reading/writing all memory through /dev/mem Petr Tesarik
2011-06-17  9:30 ` [PATCH 00/10] Enhance /dev/mem to allow read/write of arbitrary physical addresses Ingo Molnar
2011-06-17  9:41   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-17  9:55   ` Petr Tesarik
2011-06-20  2:42     ` Américo Wang
2011-06-27  7:46       ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2011-06-19 23:02   ` Ryan Mallon
2011-06-19 23:44     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-20  7:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-20 15:59         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-20 16:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-20 16:44             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-21  6:55           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2011-06-20  0:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-06-20  0:46       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-06-20  0:52         ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-06-20  1:02           ` Ryan Mallon
2011-06-20  7:31     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-20  8:03       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-06-20 17:10     ` Ray Lee
2011-06-29  9:05   ` Petr Tesarik
2011-07-01 12:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 13:43       ` Petr Tesarik
2011-07-01 13:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-01 14:37         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 14:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-01 14:46             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 14:54               ` Petr Tesarik
2011-07-01 15:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 16:00                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-01 16:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 19:34                       ` Petr Tesarik
2011-07-01 19:56                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-01 20:44                           ` Petr Tesarik
2011-07-03 19:46                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 17:49                               ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-05 17:56                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-05 22:34                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-20 13:24 Dave Anderson
2011-06-21  2:52 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 13:03   ` Dave Anderson

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