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From: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] perf: Add memory load/store events generic code
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:53:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1309931621.18875.130.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1309875468.3282.210.camel@twins>

On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 22:17 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:54 +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 19:16 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 08:02 +0000, Lin Ming wrote:
> > > > +#define MEM_STORE_DCU_HIT              (1ULL << 0)
> > > 
> > > I'm pretty sure that's not Dublin City University, but what is it?
> > > Data-Cache-Unit? what does that mean, L1/L2 or also L3? 
> > > 
> > > > +#define MEM_STORE_STLB_HIT             (1ULL << 1)
> > > 
> > > What's an sTLB? I know iTLB and dTLB's but sTLBs I've not heard of yet.
> > > 
> > > > +#define MEM_STORE_LOCKED_ACCESS                (1ULL << 2) 
> > > 
> > > Presumably that's about LOCK'ed ops?
> > > 
> > > So now you're just tacking bits on the end without even attempting to
> > > generalize/unify things, not charmed at all.
> > 
> > Any idea on the more useful store bits encoding?
> 
> For two of them, sure:
> 
> {load, store} x {atomic} x
> 	{hasSRC} x {l1, l2, l3, ram, unkown, io, uncached, reserved} x
> 	{hasLRS} x {local, remote, snoop} x 
> 	{hasMESI} x {MESI}
> 
> that would make MEM_STORE_DCU_HIT: store-l1 and MEM_STORE_LOCKED:
> store-atomic.
> 
> Now this is needed for load-latency as well, since SNB extended the src
> information with the same STLB/LOCK bits.
> 
> The SDM is somewhat inconsistent on what an STLB_MISS means:
> 
> Table 30-22 says: 0 - did not miss STLB (hit the DTLB/STLB), 1 - missed
> the STLB. 
> 
> Table 30-23 says: "the store missed the STLB if set, otherwise the store
> hit the STLB", which simply cannot be true. 
> 
> So I'm sticking with 30-22.
> 
> Now the above doesn't yet deal with TLBs nor can it map the IBS data
> source bits because afaict that can report a u-op as both a store and a
> load, but does not mention if a data-cache miss means L1 or L1/L2,
> Robert?
> 
> One way to sort all that is not use enumerated spaces like above but
> simply explode the whole thing like: load x store x atomic x l1 x l2
> x ... that would of course give rise to a load of impossible
> combinations but would do away with the hasFOO bits.
> 
> If the AMD data-cache means L1/L2 it can simply set both bits, same with
> the Intel STLB miss, it can set TLB1/TLB2 bits (AMD does split those
> nicely).
> 
> With all those bits exploded we can also express the inverse of
> MEM_STORE_DCU_HIT as: store-l2-l3-dram, we simply set ~l1 for the
> appropriate submask (which should arguably include IO/uncached/unknown
> as well).

Do you mean to use the "impossible combinations" to express the inverse?
MEM_STORE_DCU_MISS as: store-l2-l3-dram
MEM_STORE_STLB_MISS as: store-itlb-dtlb

How about below code?

#define PERF_MEM_LOAD                   (1ULL << 0)
#define PERF_MEM_STORE                  (1ULL << 1)
#define PERF_MEM_ATOMIC                 (1ULL << 2)
#define PERF_MEM_L1                     (1ULL << 3)
#define PERF_MEM_L2                     (1ULL << 4)
#define PERF_MEM_L3                     (1ULL << 5)
#define PERF_MEM_RAM                    (1ULL << 6)
#define PERF_MEM_UNKNOWN                (1ULL << 7)
#define PERF_MEM_IO                     (1ULL << 8)
#define PERF_MEM_UNCACHED               (1ULL << 9)
#define PERF_MEM_RESERVED               (1ULL << 10)
#define PERF_MEM_LOCAL                  (1ULL << 11)
#define PERF_MEM_REMOTE                 (1ULL << 12)
#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP                  (1ULL << 13)
#define PERF_MEM_MODIFIED               (1ULL << 14)
#define PERF_MEM_EXCLUSIVE              (1ULL << 15)
#define PERF_MEM_SHARED                 (1ULL << 16)
#define PERF_MEM_INVALID                (1ULL << 17)
#define PERF_MEM_ITLB                   (1ULL << 18)
#define PERF_MEM_DTLB                   (1ULL << 19)
#define PERF_MEM_STLB                   (1ULL << 20)

#define PERF_MEM_STORE_L1D_HIT  \
        (PERF_MEM_STORE | PERF_MEM_L1)

#define PERF_MEM_STORE_L1D_MISS \
        (PERF_MEM_STORE | PERF_MEM_L2 | PERF_MEM_L3 | PERF_MEM_RAM)

#define PERF_MEM_STORE_STLB_HIT \
        (PERF_MEM_STORE | PERF_MEM_STLB)
        
#define PERF_MEM_STORE_STLB_MISS \
        (PERF_MEM_STORE | PERF_MEM_ITLB | PERF_MEM_DTLB)

#define PERF_MEM_STORE_ATOMIC \
        (PERF_MEM_STORE | PERF_MEM_ATOMIC)

#define PERF_MEM_LOAD_STLB_HIT  \
        (PERF_MEM_LOAD | PERF_MEM_STLB)
   
#define PERF_MEM_LOAD_STLB_MISS \
        (PERF_MEM_LOAD | PERF_MEM_ITLB | PERF_MEM_DTLB)

#define PERF_MEM_LOAD_ATOMIC \
        (PERF_MEM_LOAD | PERF_MEM_ATOMIC)


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-06  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-04  8:02 [PATCH 0/4] perf: memory load/store events generalization Lin Ming
2011-07-04  8:02 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf: Add memory load/store events generic code Lin Ming
2011-07-04  8:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04  8:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 12:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 23:02         ` Paul Mackerras
2011-07-06 13:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-08  7:18             ` Anton Blanchard
2011-07-08 15:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-08 11:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-08-08 11:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04 22:01     ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-05  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04 11:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04 11:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04 21:52     ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-05 11:54     ` Lin Ming
2011-07-05 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-06  5:53         ` Lin Ming [this message]
2011-07-06 13:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-07  2:01             ` Lin Ming
2011-07-04  8:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf, x86: Add Intel Nhm/Wsm/Snb load latency support Lin Ming
2011-07-05 13:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 13:34     ` Lin Ming
2011-07-22 18:58   ` Stephane Eranian
2011-07-04  8:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf, x86: Add Intel SandyBridge pricise store support Lin Ming
2011-07-11  8:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-11  8:57     ` Lin Ming
2011-07-11  8:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-04  8:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] perf, tool: Add new command "perf mem" Lin Ming
2011-07-04 22:00   ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-05  1:35     ` Lin Ming
2011-07-22 18:55 ` [PATCH 0/4] perf: memory load/store events generalization Stephane Eranian
2011-07-22 21:01   ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-22 21:14     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-07-22 21:43       ` Andi Kleen
2011-07-22 21:59         ` Stephane Eranian

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