From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751418Ab1GYMmE (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:42:04 -0400 Received: from filtteri1.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.184]:34406 "EHLO filtteri1.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750946Ab1GYMly (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:41:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1 From: Pekka Enberg To: Kevin Wolf Cc: Alexander Graf , Ingo Molnar , Jan Kiszka , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, avi@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, gorcunov@gmail.com, levinsasha928@gmail.com, asias.hejun@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E2D608F.6020606@redhat.com> References: <4E2CA6DE.4040900@web.de> <20110725075305.GA32294@elte.hu> <0EAA5203-D598-4CBA-B8D2-AB371A7689A9@suse.de> <4E2D608F.6020606@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:41:52 +0300 Message-ID: <1311597712.14203.28.camel@jaguar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Kevin, On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 14:24 +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote: > You've just chosen a different default. I'd argue that most users (i.e. > not developers of the tool or the kernel) actually want to run with a > disk image and graphics. You can type "qemu-kvm harddisk.img" and that's > it. This is clearly superior to something as tedious as "./kvm run -d > harddisk.img --sdl" and I can assure you that a bash alias is really not > a solution for that. I actually agree with you and we eventually want kvm run harddisk.img to do the right thing. On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 14:24 +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote: > So, as always, which set of command line switches works better for you > depends entirely on your use case. I actually don't agree. I think Qemu requires way too much configuration from the user and doesn't try hard enough to provide best possible defaults. Dunno how much virt-manager changes all that, though. Pekka