From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.0.4-rt13
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:05:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1315814733.21927.16.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1109120924540.2723@ionos>
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 09:33 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
> > I'm very definitely missing sirq threads from the wakeup latency POV.
> >
> > (Other things are muddying the water, eg. rcu boost, if wired up and
> > selected always ramming boosted threads through the roof instead of
> > configured boost prio.. etc etc, but this definitely improves my latency
> > woes a lot)
> >
> > This is a giant step backward from "let's improve abysmal throughput",
> > so I'm wondering if anyone has better ideas.
>
> One of the problems we have are the signal based timers (posix-timer,
> itimer).
That's the biggest part of my jitter troubles.
> We really want to move the penalty for those into the context
> of the thread/process to which those timers belong. The trick is to
> just note the expiry of a timer and wake up the target which has to
> deal with the real work in his own context and on his own
> account. That's rather simple for thread bound signals, but has a lot
> of implications with process wide ones. Though it should be doable and
> I'd rather see that solved than hacking around with the split softirqs
That definitely sounds like a better idea.. for someone who thoroughly
understands signals.
> > WRT below: "fixes" are dinky, this is not...
> >
> > sched, rt, sirq: resurrect sirq threads for RT_FULL
> >
> > Not-signed-off-by: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
>
> Not-that-delighted: tglx
Ditto.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-12 8:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-10 9:12 Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-10 14:53 ` Madovsky
2011-09-10 17:27 ` Rolando Martins
2011-09-11 10:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-11 17:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-12 7:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-12 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-12 9:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-12 13:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-12 14:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-13 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 15:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-13 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-13 15:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-13 16:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-21 10:17 ` rt14: strace -> migrate_disable_atomic imbalance Mike Galbraith
2011-09-21 17:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-21 18:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 4:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 6:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 11:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 13:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 14:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 14:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 14:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 14:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-22 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-22 14:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-22 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 9:57 ` [PATCH -rt] ipc/sem: Rework semaphore wakeups Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-14 13:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-14 18:48 ` Manfred Spraul
2011-09-14 19:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-15 17:04 ` Manfred Spraul
2011-09-12 10:04 ` [ANNOUNCE] 3.0.4-rt13 Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-12 11:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-11 18:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-09-12 7:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-12 8:05 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2011-09-12 8:43 ` Mike Galbraith
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