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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Hal Finney <hal.finney@gmail.com>,
	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	srajiv@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH] TPM: Let the tpm char device be openable multiple times
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:24:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13189.1257305069@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:41:58 MST." <20091103224157.GA20963@obsidianresearch.com>

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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:41:58 MST, Jason Gunthorpe said:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 01:14:28PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:31:55 PST, Hal Finney said:
> > > What if you don't want it accessible by user mode apps, you only want
> > > your middleware (ie tcs daemon, tcsd) to open it? Will this still
> > > allow that to be enforced, so nobody can interfere with tcsd's
> > > exclusive access to the device?
> > 
> > Couldn't tcsd just open the device with O_EXCL? Or am I missing something
> > subtle here?
> 
> O_EXCL isn't a locking flag...

Sorry, getting over the flu, my brain isn't totally online yet. I was
thinking of TIOCEXCL which is (a) an ioctl() and (b) apparently tty-specific.

A number of other things under drivers/ implement "only one open" semantics,
but those are hard-coded into the driver. But for the TPM, it's unclear if
exclusive or non-exclusive is the right model. Maybe the right answer is to
default to multiple opens, but have an ioctl() that turns on exclusive mode.
If you have a 'tcsd' daemon, it will need to get launched early enough
to do the open/ioctl before somebody else gets running anyhow, so it's
not adding to any raciness.  Yeah, it's a hack. And there's still a small
DoS issue - if the system is supposed to allow multiple opens, an abusive
process can ioctl() it and break it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-04  3:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-03  0:35 Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-03 10:43 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-03 17:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-03 17:31 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Hal Finney
2009-11-03 17:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-03 18:14   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-03 22:41     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-04  3:24       ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2009-11-04  4:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-04  9:58         ` Alan Cox
2012-09-30 23:33 Jason Gunthorpe
2012-10-01  9:07 ` [tpmdd-devel] " Peter.Huewe
2012-10-01 16:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-10-10 16:33 ` Kent Yoder
2012-10-12 20:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-10-15  8:35     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Peter.Huewe
2012-10-15 16:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2012-10-15 16:49         ` Alan Cox
2012-10-15 16:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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