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From: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, acme@kernel.org,
	agordeev@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com,
	sumanthk@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf test: Fix test case 120 and 121 for s390
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 08:21:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <131d7e1e-701e-4f5b-961f-c85af74f1d96@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abEG_lty-tgMXJYx@z2>

On 3/11/26 07:09, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2026 at 11:18:28AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 5:59 AM Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/6/26 17:53, Ian Rogers wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2026 at 7:52 AM Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 08:10:02AM +0100, Thomas Richter wrote:
>>>>>> Perf tests
>>>>>> 120: 'perf data convert --to-ctf' command test
>>>>>> 121: 'perf data convert --to-json' command test
>>>>>> fail on s390. It is caused by selecting the default event cycles
>>>>>> which does not exist on s390 z/VM. Use software event cpu-clock
>>>>>> and specify it explicitly on the command line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Output before:
>>>>>> ❯ perf test 120 121
>>>>>> 120: 'perf data convert --to-ctf' command test       : FAILED!
>>>>>> 121: 'perf data convert --to-json' command test      : FAILED!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Output after:
>>>>>> ❯ perf test 120 121
>>>>>> 120: 'perf data convert --to-ctf' command test       : Ok
>>>>>> 121: 'perf data convert --to-json' command test      : Ok
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> Thanks for providing this, Thomas!
>>>>> Tested-by: Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>
>>>> Should we not fallback for the cycles as a default event?
>>>> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/builtin-record.c#n1374
>>>> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/util/evsel.c#n3792
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>
>>> The fallback should be cpu-clock in case hardware event cycles (or CPU_CYCLES on s390) does not exist.
>>
>> Thanks Thomas, so the change is doing:
>> ```
>> -       if ! perf record -o "$perfdata" -F 99 -g -- perf test -w noploop
>> +       if ! perf record -o "$perfdata" -e cpu-clock -F 99 -g -- perf
>> test -w noploop
>> ```
>> where the default event is cycles:
>> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/tools/perf/util/evlist.c#n116
>> Given that cycles will fail but then fallback to cpu-clock:
>> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/tools/perf/util/evsel.c#n3792
>> I wonder if the issue is that the fallback is broken. Specifically:
>> ```
>>    evsel->core.attr.type   == PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE &&
>>    evsel->core.attr.config == PERF_COUNT_HW_CPU_CYCLES) {
>> ```
>> It isn't going to work well on hybrid machines or those whose PMU's
>> sysfs events or JSON include a cycles event. I wonder if using
>> `evsel__match(evsel, HARDWARE, CYCLES)` would be better, as the
>> evsel__match code is more robust to these kind of variances. I don't
>> know if that will address the fallback problem for you.
> 
> I suspect it may return a different error code on s390.
> 
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
> 

This is interesting, further debugging revealed this:
 # ./perf record -F 99 --call-graph dwarf  -F99 -- perf test -w noploop
Error:
Failure to open event 'cpum_cf/cycles/PH' on PMU 'cpum_cf' which will be removed.
cpum_cf/cycles/PH: PMU Hardware doesn't support sampling/overflow-interrupts. Try 'perf stat'
Error:
Failure to open any events for recording.
 # ./perf record -F 99 -g -- perf test -w noploop
Error:
Failure to open event 'cpum_cf/cycles/PH' on PMU 'cpum_cf' which will be removed.
cpum_cf/cycles/PH: PMU Hardware doesn't support sampling/overflow-interrupts. Try 'perf stat'
Error:
Failure to open any events for recording.
 # ./perf record -F 99  -- perf test -w noploop
[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
Failed to open /proc/schedstat
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.012 MB perf.data (95 samples) ]
 # 

So the real issue is the -g / --call-graph dwarf option. s390 supports only dwarf.
But with --call-graph event 'cpum_cf/cycles/PH' is used, that is modifier H is added.
 # ./perf evlist
 cpum_cf/cycles/P
 #

Without that option modifier H is not added and all is well.

I suggest to drop the call-graph option. If that option is needed for the test
than we need a s390 change anyway.

-- 
Thomas Richter, Dept 3303, IBM s390 Linux Development, Boeblingen, Germany
--
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-11  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-06  7:10 Thomas Richter
2026-03-06 15:51 ` Jan Polensky
2026-03-06 16:53   ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-09 12:59     ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-09 18:18       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-11  6:09         ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-11  7:21           ` Thomas Richter [this message]
2026-03-12  3:19             ` [PATCH v1 0/2] perf evsel fallback changes Ian Rogers
2026-03-12  3:19               ` [PATCH v1 1/2] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-12  3:19               ` [PATCH v1 2/2] perf evsel: Don't configure framepointer callchains on s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-12  6:16               ` [PATCH v2 0/2] perf evsel fallback changes Ian Rogers
2026-03-12  6:16                 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-12  6:16                 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] perf evsel: Don't configure framepointer callchains on s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-12 12:45                   ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-12 15:54                     ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-12 16:46                       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-12 18:00                         ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-13  9:46                         ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-13 21:01                           ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-13 20:28                 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] perf evsel fallback changes Ian Rogers
2026-03-13 20:28                   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-13 20:28                   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-13 20:28                   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-16 12:13                     ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-16 18:41                       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:05                         ` [PATCH v4 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:05                           ` [PATCH v4 1/5] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:05                           ` [PATCH v4 2/5] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:05                           ` [PATCH v4 3/5] perf evsel: Constify option arguments to config functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:06                           ` [PATCH v4 4/5] perf callchain: Move callchain option parsing out of builtin Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  3:06                           ` [PATCH v4 5/5] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                           ` [PATCH v5 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                             ` [PATCH v5 1/5] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                             ` [PATCH v5 2/5] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                             ` [PATCH v5 3/5] perf evsel: Constify option arguments to config functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                             ` [PATCH v5 4/5] perf callchain: Refactor callchain option parsing Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  5:53                             ` [PATCH v5 5/5] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-17  7:52                               ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-17 15:54                                 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes, better s390 defaults Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                     ` [PATCH v6 1/5] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                     ` [PATCH v6 2/5] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                     ` [PATCH v6 3/5] perf evsel: Constify option arguments to config functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                     ` [PATCH v6 4/5] perf callchain: Refactor callchain option parsing Ian Rogers
2026-03-17 17:56                                     ` [PATCH v6 5/5] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-18  8:20                                     ` [PATCH v6 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes, better s390 defaults Thomas Richter
2026-03-18 16:29                                       ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                         ` [PATCH v7 " Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                           ` [PATCH v7 1/5] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                           ` [PATCH v7 2/5] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                           ` [PATCH v7 3/5] perf evsel: Constify option arguments to config functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                           ` [PATCH v7 4/5] perf callchain: Refactor callchain option parsing Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 17:58                                           ` [PATCH v7 5/5] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:45                                           ` [PATCH v8 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes, better s390 defaults Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:45                                             ` [PATCH v8 1/5] perf evsel: Improve falling back from cycles Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:45                                             ` [PATCH v8 2/5] perf target: Constify simple check functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:45                                             ` [PATCH v8 3/5] perf evsel: Constify option arguments to config functions Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:45                                             ` [PATCH v8 4/5] perf callchain: Refactor callchain option parsing Ian Rogers
2026-03-18 23:46                                             ` [PATCH v8 5/5] perf evlist: Improve default event for s390 Ian Rogers
2026-03-19  7:53                                               ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-19  5:39                                             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] perf evsel fallback changes, better s390 defaults Ian Rogers
2026-03-19  8:02                                               ` Thomas Richter
2026-03-20 18:12                                             ` Namhyung Kim

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