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From: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst@gmail.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 10/10] x86, efi: EFI boot stub support
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:56:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1322168216.24448.61.camel@mfleming-mobl1.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ECE5803.3060203@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 15:43 +0100, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> Hey Matt,
> 
> On 11/23/2011 08:27 PM, Matt Fleming wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 01:44 +0100, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> >> When I tested this with v3.2-rc2 it didn't boot, it hung before it
> >> initialized the kernel.
> >> Without initrd it works fine, though.
> > Bah, so this change actually makes booting worse? You said before that
> > you almost made it to userspace but this seems to hang much earlier now.
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > ... back to the drawing board.
> I was looking at why grub2 could boot, seems to be it reads in chunks of
> 256 kilobytes. I seem to be able to get it to boot with chunks of 4 mb
> as well, but didn't test beyond that.
> 
> So the fix is to simply read the file in parts, otherwise efi hangs..
> As a nice side effect, short reads are also handled, but the efi
> firmware seems to choke over huge reads and dies.

Urrggghh.....

Thanks a lot for diagnosing this, Maarten! The copy of grub that I have
(fedora's version) looks like it uses the disk_io protocol to read from
disks, I wonder if there's a reason for this. I Cc'd Peter Jones in case
he's seen anything like this before.

Aha, read_file() in the elilo source contains this helpful comment,

	/*                                                                      
         * We load by chunks rather than a single big read because              
         * early versions of EFI had troubles loading files                     
         * from floppies in a single big request.  Breaking                     
         * the read down into chunks of 4KB fixed that                          
         * problem. While this problem has been fixed, we still prefer          
         * this method because it tells us whether or not we're making          
         * forward progress.                                                    
         */

(but reading the code it's clear it uses a chunk size of 16KB, not 4KB)

So, it looks like it's not just reading from floppies that hits this bug
in the firmware.

Maarten, could you send a patch against the 'x86/efi-stub' branch at
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mfleming/linux.git that
splits the read up into 16KB chunks and explains,

	- why we need to do the reading in chunks
	- why we chose the 16KB chunk size (because elilo said so)

That way, the bug fix will be properly documented and attributed to you.

-- 
Matt Fleming, Intel Open Source Technology Center


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-11-24 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-17 10:40 [PATCH v5 00/10] x86 EFI boot stub Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 01/10] x86: Add missing bzImage fields to struct setup_header Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 02/10] x86, efi: Make efi_call_phys_prelog() CONFIG_RELOCATABLE-aware Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 03/10] x86: Don't use magic strings for EFI loader signature Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 04/10] efi.h: Add struct definition for boot time services Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] efi.h: Add efi_image_loaded_t Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 06/10] efi.h: Add allocation types for boottime->allocate_pages() Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] efi.h: Add graphics protocol guids Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH 08/10] efi.h: Add boottime->locate_handle search types Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] efi: Add EFI file I/O data types Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 10:40 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] x86, efi: EFI boot stub support Matt Fleming
2011-10-17 16:39   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-10-17 18:28     ` Matt Fleming
2011-10-18  6:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 20:06   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-11-15 18:51     ` Matt Fleming
2011-11-23  0:44       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-11-23 19:27         ` Matt Fleming
2011-11-24 14:43           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-11-24 16:58             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-11-24 20:56             ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2011-11-24 21:07               ` Matthew Garrett
2011-11-24 21:31                 ` Matt Fleming
2011-11-25  1:37               ` [PATCH] x86, efi: Break up large initrd reads Maarten Lankhorst
2011-11-25  8:48                 ` Matt Fleming
2011-12-12 23:10                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-13 18:26                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-14 23:33                       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2011-12-14 23:36                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-16 12:30                           ` [PATCH v2] " Maarten Lankhorst
2011-12-16 18:43                             ` [tip:x86/efi] " tip-bot for Maarten Lankhorst
2011-12-10  2:37 ` [tip:x86/efi] x86: Add missing bzImage fields to struct setup_header tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:38 ` [tip:x86/efi] x86: Don't use magic strings for EFI loader signature tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:38 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi.h: Add struct definition for boot time services tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:39 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi.h: Add efi_image_loaded_t tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:40 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi.h: Add allocation types for boottime->allocate_pages() tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:41 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi.h: Add graphics protocol guids tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:42 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi.h: Add boottime->locate_handle search types tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2011-12-10  2:42 ` [tip:x86/efi] efi: Add EFI file I/O data types tip-bot for Matt Fleming

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