From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756160Ab1LEBYi (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:24:38 -0500 Received: from shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk ([88.96.1.126]:34799 "EHLO shadbolt.e.decadent.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755958Ab1LEBYh (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: <1323048232.7454.161.camel@deadeye> Subject: Re: [Linux-decnet-user] Proposed removal of DECnet support (was:Re: [BUG] 3.2-rc2:BUG kmalloc-8: Redzone overwritten) From: Ben Hutchings To: Philipp Schafft Cc: Steven Whitehouse , mike.gair@tatasteel.com, Chrissie Caulfield , Christoph Lameter , David Miller , Eric Dumazet , Sasha Levin , Linux-DECnet user , linux-kernel , linux-mm , Matt Mackall , netdev , Pekka Enberg , RoarAudio Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:23:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20111204195055.A36077AD9C@priderock.keep-cool.org> References: <1322664737.2755.17.camel@menhir> <20111204195055.A36077AD9C@priderock.keep-cool.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-rIZv2lxU9UN8BoTIhMpY" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3-2 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:470:1f08:1539:21c:bfff:fe03:f805 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ben@decadent.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shadbolt.decadent.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-rIZv2lxU9UN8BoTIhMpY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 20:50 +0100, Philipp Schafft wrote: > reflum, >=20 > On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 14:52 +0000, Steven Whitehouse wrote: [...] > > It is good to know that people are still using the Linux DECnet code > > too. It has lived far beyond the time when I'd envisioned it still bein= g > > useful :-) >=20 > There are still some people interested in it. Btw. on Debian popcon > counts 5356 users. This is grossly misleading. Here's the historical graph showing <100 installations of libdnet until early 2011: http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=3Dlibdnet The increase in 2011 is not a sudden resurgence of interest; it comes from roaraudio[1] users. For some reason (a joke?) roaraudio has DECnet support and its packages depend on libdnet. You can see that the above graph is precisely correlated with this: http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=3Dlibroar1 (And so far as I can work out, libroar1 is mostly being installed as a dependency of an unofficial package of Xine.) The only reason I know this is because there was a sudden spate of bug reports on the kernel due to people getting dnet-common installed as a recommendation of libdnet and then having their Ethernet MAC addresses reconfigured for DECnet. [1] Yet another audio mixing daemon Ben. --=20 Ben Hutchings Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer --=-rIZv2lxU9UN8BoTIhMpY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUATtwdKOe/yOyVhhEJAQpOsQ//WOlBFMMy7cINXPzERExzfEr4s9IPGTck uxNv6JFcqPXfq0E9kBToR6GQx/RgPG568/RIunHZbZ7GWUm62ORez2LlJhW5wLlv o+kZEcTN3aC5+C7ubWAlbKAboMC0UPQp2CGm0lq6wKjk340BWM8wkiX5OkSjoMGs Wkdn+XXU6dmfwWE+p4D3hD5Gp7G3jZ6EGb+uVs7Sijk3uF8CHVwMxkXBvzjhttyW 1rLW8/NOCTZFdL03xF8SZGI6jnfXYp8Y3iHVpeySh6IgoGQjGpydvjzwpsW7U+um ZFA28NaO5LF/lrp7y2IaX1jOBowiKZB0FqybcSOYMeZoKPEf+F0SWs2dNsXSpPZG B6aJl4EvFJxGenQ5Dd2S5zvnx3zsKapD8aGNbzTsFTwldbP2TIIEs/T7xJlYGYHc tAR2LuhMVrhAwAO1yT1ZDnDw/GfvXEx8pUyqfYeqlvNJeNA67H4I7UzryzVzRbm2 r1lc9YeT97eLWel+dVLg0oTBUuEZTkxK+ioAKMRf13t/0RjHEbPi2doEeSCvtJ/y T6SIKWAmiRLHit6igR8C+ofjHjQ275+ueqA8mOAZj64w1GUVOuc3NB3R5CNFLO4K 3QMwtmSaSWo6hRfdcBsU1/eCu3PNLHEToH6HjZPkkYm1GxzxnN2puYjzeGP6yY5J ZRMsDe/FEss= =D2v5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-rIZv2lxU9UN8BoTIhMpY--