From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:14:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329761661.6276.146.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329748861.2293.345.camel@twins>
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 15:41 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:14 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
> > ---
> > kernel/sched_fair.c | 10 ++--------
> > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >
> > Index: linux-3.0-tip/kernel/sched_fair.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-3.0-tip.orig/kernel/sched_fair.c
> > +++ linux-3.0-tip/kernel/sched_fair.c
> > @@ -2276,17 +2276,11 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct ta
> > for_each_cpu_and(i, sched_domain_span(sd), tsk_cpus_allowed(p)) {
> > if (idle_cpu(i)) {
> > target = i;
> > + if (sd->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUPOWER)
> > + continue;
> > break;
> > }
> > }
> > -
> > - /*
> > - * Lets stop looking for an idle sibling when we reached
> > - * the domain that spans the current cpu and prev_cpu.
> > - */
> > - if (cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, sched_domain_span(sd)) &&
> > - cpumask_test_cpu(prev_cpu, sched_domain_span(sd)))
> > - break;
> > }
> > rcu_read_unlock();
>
> Mike, Suresh, did we ever get this sorted? I was looking at
> select_idle_sibling() and it looks like we dropped this.
I thought this was pretty much sorted. We want to prefer core over
sibling, because on at laest some modern CPUs with L3, siblings suck
rocks.
> Also, did anybody ever get an answer from a HW guy on why sharing stuff
> over SMT threads is so much worse than sharing it over proper cores?
No. My numbers on westmere indicated to me that siblings do not share
L2, making them fairly worthless. Hard facts we never got.
> Its
> not like this workload actually does anything concurrently.
>
> I was looking at this code due to vatsa wanting to do SD_BALANCE_WAKE.
I really really need to find time to do systematic mainline testing.
Enabling SD_BALANCE_WAKE used to be decidedly too expensive to consider.
Maybe that has changed, but I doubt it. (general aside: testing with a
bloated distro config is a big mistake)
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-20 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-15 9:46 Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-16 1:14 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-16 9:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-16 18:37 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-17 1:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-17 16:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 17:36 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:17 ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:18 ` [patch 1/7] " Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 9:50 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Use " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:20 ` [patch 2/7] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 20:20 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Save " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:21 ` [patch 3/7] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-24 3:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-24 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-25 6:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 9:51 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Set " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:22 ` [patch 4/7] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:23 ` [patch 5/7] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:24 ` [patch 6/7] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:26 ` [patch 7/7] sched: only use TTWU_QUEUE when waker/wakee CPUs do not share top level cache Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:39 ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Hillf Danton
2011-11-18 15:18 ` [patch 2/6] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:19 ` [patch 3/6] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-19 0:51 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2011-11-19 4:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:20 ` [patch 4/6] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:22 ` [patch 5/6] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:23 ` [patch 6/6] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2012-02-20 14:41 ` sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 15:03 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 0:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 8:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:14 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2012-02-20 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 5:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 8:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21 9:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 14:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 10:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 12:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 16:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-25 6:54 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-25 8:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-27 22:11 ` Suresh Siddha
2012-02-28 5:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 19:08 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 9:49 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clean up domain traversal in select_idle_sibling() tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 23:40 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
[not found] <1329764866.2293.376.camhel@twins>
2012-03-05 15:24 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-06 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-06 10:03 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-22 15:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-23 6:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-26 8:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 17:35 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-26 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 13:56 ` Mike Galbraith
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