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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 6/6] rcu: Reduce cache-miss initialization latencies for large systems
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:42:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1335588142.7498.21.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120427151518.GA2419@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 08:15 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: 
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:36:11AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 09:42 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: 
> > > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > 
> > > Commit #0209f649 (rcu: limit rcu_node leaf-level fanout) set an upper
> > > limit of 16 on the leaf-level fanout for the rcu_node tree.  This was
> > > needed to reduce lock contention that was induced by the synchronization
> > > of scheduling-clock interrupts, which was in turn needed to improve
> > > energy efficiency for moderate-sized lightly loaded servers.
> > > 
> > > However, reducing the leaf-level fanout means that there are more
> > > leaf-level rcu_node structures in the tree, which in turn means that
> > > RCU's grace-period initialization incurs more cache misses.  This is
> > > not a problem on moderate-sized servers with only a few tens of CPUs,
> > 
> > With a distro config (4096 CPUs) interrupt latency is bad even on a
> > quad.  Traversing empty nodes taking locks and cache misses hurts.
> 
> Agreed -- and I will be working on an additional patch that makes RCU
> avoid initializing its data structures for CPUs that don't exist.

That's still on my todo list too, your initial patch (and my butchery
thereof to skip taking lock) showed this helps a heap.

> That said, increasing the leaf-level fanout from 16 to 64 should reduce
> the latency pain by a factor of four.  In addition, I would expect that
> real-time builds of the kernel would set NR_CPUS to some value much
> smaller than 4096.  ;-)

Yup, else you would have heard whimpering months ago ;-)

-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-28  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-23 16:41 [PATCH RFC 0/6] Miscellaneous RCU fixes for 3.5 Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/6] rcu: Stabilize use of num_online_cpus() for GP short circuit Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/6] rcu: List-debug variants of rcu list routines Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/6] rcu: Replace list_first_entry_rcu() with list_first_or_null_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/6] rcu: Clarify help text for RCU_BOOST_PRIO Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 17:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/6] rcu: Make __kfree_rcu() less dependent on compiler choices Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 13:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-04-26 13:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 6/6] rcu: Reduce cache-miss initialization latencies for large systems Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 14:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 15:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 16:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 19:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 19:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 20:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 22:04                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 20:28               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 22:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-27 14:17                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-27  4:36     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-27 15:15       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-28  4:42         ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2012-04-28 17:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-29  3:54             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-24 15:35   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/6] rcu: Stabilize use of num_online_cpus() for GP short circuit Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-24 16:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-24 17:46       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-05-07  3:47       ` Rusty Russell

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