From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
"gleb@redhat.com" <gleb@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:57:53 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1342036673.2229.17.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FFD68C3.7000504@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 14:51 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/11/2012 02:23 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd appreciate a couple of examples for formality's sake.
> >
> > From the top of my head: NVIDIA FX3700 (granted, legacy by now), Atheros
> > AR9287. For others, I need to check.
>
> Thanks.
>
> >>
> >>> And then there is not easily replaceable legacy hardware like old
> >>> telephony adapters or industrial I/O cards etc. that want this.
> >>
> >> I imagine legacy hardware will live with the speed of routing through
> >> qemu, when running on modern platforms.
> >
> > Just because it's "legacy" doesn't mean it's "low performance" and "low
> > interrupt rate".
>
> I meant that it was used with lower throughput hardware, so the overhead
> of routing through qemu will be masked by the improved host hardware.
> But most of the improvement in hardware in recent years is the increase
> in core/thread count.
>
> > We still have classic KVM device assignment to provide fast-path INTx.
> > But if we want to replace it midterm, I think it's necessary for VFIO to
> > be able to provide such a path as well.
>
> I would like VFIO to have no regressions vs. kvm device assignment,
> except perhaps in uncommon corner cases. So I agree.
I ran a few TCP_RR netperf tests forcing a 1Gb tg3 nic to use INTx.
Without irqchip support vfio gets a bit more than 60% of KVM device
assignment. That's a little bit of an unfair comparison since it's more
than just the I/O path. With the proposed interfaces here, enabling
irqchip, vfio is within 10% of KVM device assignment for INTx. For MSI,
I can actually make vfio come out more than 30% better than KVM device
assignment if I send the eventfd from the hard irq handler. Using a
threaded handler as the code currently does, vfio is still behind KVM.
It's hard to beat a direct call chain.
For more devices, one that seems common among the non-enterprise users
are TV capture cards, like the old PVR-250/350 devices. These don't
support MSI. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-11 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-03 19:21 Alex Williamson
2012-07-03 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] kvm: Extend irqfd to support level interrupts Alex Williamson
2012-07-03 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs Alex Williamson
2012-07-04 14:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-05 4:24 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-05 15:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-09 20:35 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-13 13:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-11 9:53 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 10:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-11 10:49 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 11:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-11 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-11 19:57 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2012-07-12 9:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-12 16:19 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-12 17:38 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-15 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-16 14:08 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-15 8:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-16 14:03 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-16 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
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