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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm: introduce a DTS for Xen unprivileged virtual machines
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:18:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1348143533.26501.28.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1209201240110.29232@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 12:56 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 18:44 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > +/include/ "skeleton.dtsi"
> > > +
> > > +/ {
> > > +	model = "XENVM-4.2";
> > 
> > Why the shouty caps?
> 
> It looks like that model names are always capital, at least in the
> vexpress family.
> 
> 
> > Did you mean 4.3 here and throughout?
> 
> Nope, after all this is the fruit of the work we did on Xen 4.2, mostly
> already upstream. By the time of the 4.3 release we might have a
> different dts.
> 
> 
> > > +	compatible = "xen,xenvm-4.2", "arm,vexpress";
> > 
> > Is this second compatible thing actually true? We don't actually emulate
> > much (anything?) of what would be on a real vexpress motherboard.
> > 
> > "arm,vexpress" is used only in v2m.c and I don't think we want the
> > majority of that -- we don't provide any of the peripherals which it
> > registers.
> > 
> > I think the only things we might want out of that lot are the arch timer
> > and perhaps the uart0 (as a debug port).
> > 
> > I suspect we should have our own xen machine .c.
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> It is true that we are "arm,vexpress" compatible at the moment.

But we aren't, we don't emulate 90%+ of the actual hardware which
vexpress compatibility would actually imply.

Look in arch/arm/mach-vexpress/v2m.c, which is the only thing keyed off
this compat value -- it's full of stuff which we don't (and aren't going
to) implement.

> Also we need to be unless we want to introduce our own arch/arm/mach-xen
> that I think is overkill.

Probably.

> Versatile Express is flexible enough to be a good base for our own
> virtual machine platform, especially if the maintainers keep an eye on
> getting everything through DT and not expecting devices just to be there
> ;-)

Perhaps what we want is a stricter subset of the stuff in mach-vexpress
then. But if so then this should be expressed both in the DT and in the
code, not just papered over by declaring things compatible when they are
not.

> > > +	gic: interrupt-controller@2c001000 {
> > > +		compatible = "arm,cortex-a9-gic";
> > 
> > Don't we mean "arm,cortex-a15-gic" here? That's what we actually
> > provide. I'm not sure how the a9 and a15 differ.
> 
> The GIC that comes with vexpress is a9 compatible.

The GIC which Xen emulates is the one which matters here though, and
that is an a15.

Ian.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-20 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-19 17:44 Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 10:06 ` Pawel Moll
2012-09-20 11:18   ` Dave Martin
2012-09-20 12:02     ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 21:29     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-21 11:17       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 11:39   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 11:55     ` Pawel Moll
2012-09-20 12:15       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 12:28         ` Marc Zyngier
2012-09-20 13:30           ` Ian Campbell
2012-09-20 13:50             ` Marc Zyngier
2012-09-20 10:17 ` Ian Campbell
2012-09-20 11:56   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 12:18     ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2012-09-20 12:39       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 13:16         ` Ian Campbell
2012-09-20 13:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-20 14:11         ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 14:24           ` Pawel Moll
2012-09-20 10:45 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2012-09-20 11:21   ` Dave Martin
2012-09-20 12:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 12:57       ` Dave Martin
2012-09-20 12:00   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-09-20 20:26 ` Rob Herring
2012-09-21 11:14   ` Stefano Stabellini

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