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From: Andrew Theurer <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Srikar <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Jiannan Ouyang <ouyang@cs.pitt.edu>,
	chegu vinod <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case in PLE handler
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:36:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349897783.22418.15.camel@oc2024037011.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5075B63C.5030603@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:24 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 08:29 AM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 00:21 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> >> * Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> [2012-10-04 17:00:28]:
> >>
> >>> On 10/04/2012 03:07 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 14:41 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Again the numbers are ridiculously high for arch_local_irq_restore.
> >>>>> Maybe there's a bad perf/kvm interaction when we're injecting an
> >>>>> interrupt, I can't believe we're spending 84% of the time running the
> >>>>> popf instruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> Smells like a software fallback that doesn't do NMI, hrtimer based
> >>>> sampling typically hits popf where we re-enable interrupts.
> >>>
> >>> Good nose, that's probably it.  Raghavendra, can you ensure that the PMU
> >>> is properly exposed?  'dmesg' in the guest will tell.  If it isn't, -cpu
> >>> host will expose it (and a good idea anyway to get best performance).
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Avi, you are right. SandyBridge machine result was not proper.
> >> I cleaned up the services, enabled PMU, re-ran all the test again.
> >>
> >> Here is the summary:
> >> We do get good benefit by increasing ple window. Though we don't
> >> see good benefit for kernbench and sysbench, for ebizzy, we get huge
> >> improvement for 1x scenario. (almost 2/3rd of ple disabled case).
> >>
> >> Let me know if you think we can increase the default ple_window
> >> itself to 16k.
> >>
> >> I am experimenting with V2 version of undercommit improvement(this) patch
> >> series, But I think if you wish  to go for increase of
> >> default ple_window, then we would have to measure the benefit of patches
> >> when ple_window = 16k.
> >>
> >> I can respin the whole series including this default ple_window change.
> >>
> >> I also have the perf kvm top result for both ebizzy and kernbench.
> >> I think they are in expected lines now.
> >>
> >> Improvements
> >> ================
> >>
> >> 16 core PLE machine with 16 vcpu guest
> >>
> >> base = 3.6.0-rc5 + ple handler optimization patches
> >> base_pleopt_16k = base + ple_window = 16k
> >> base_pleopt_32k = base + ple_window = 32k
> >> base_pleopt_nople = base + ple_gap = 0
> >> kernbench, hackbench, sysbench (time in sec lower is better)
> >> ebizzy (rec/sec higher is better)
> >>
> >> % improvements w.r.t base (ple_window = 4k)
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >>                 |base_pleopt_16k| base_pleopt_32k | base_pleopt_nople |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> kernbench_1x   |  0.42371      |  1.15164        |   0.09320         |
> >> kernbench_2x   | -1.40981      | -17.48282       |  -570.77053       |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> sysbench_1x    | -0.92367      | 0.24241         | -0.27027          |
> >> sysbench_2x    | -2.22706      |-0.30896         | -1.27573          |
> >> sysbench_3x    | -0.75509      | 0.09444         | -2.97756          |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> ebizzy_1x      | 54.99976      | 67.29460        |  74.14076         |
> >> ebizzy_2x      | -8.83386      |-27.38403        | -96.22066         |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >>
> >> perf kvm top observation for kernbench and ebizzy (nople, 4k, 32k window)
> >> ========================================================================
> >
> > Is the perf data for 1x overcommit?
> 
> Yes, 16vcpu guest on 16 core
> 
> >
> >> pleopt   ple_gap=0
> >> --------------------
> >> ebizzy : 18131 records/s
> >> 63.78%  [guest.kernel]  [g] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
> >>      5.65%  [guest.kernel]  [g] smp_call_function_many
> >>      3.12%  [guest.kernel]  [g] clear_page
> >>      3.02%  [guest.kernel]  [g] down_read_trylock
> >>      1.85%  [guest.kernel]  [g] async_page_fault
> >>      1.81%  [guest.kernel]  [g] up_read
> >>      1.76%  [guest.kernel]  [g] native_apic_mem_write
> >>      1.70%  [guest.kernel]  [g] find_vma
> >
> > Does 'perf kvm top' not give host samples at the same time?  Would be
> > nice to see the host overhead as a function of varying ple window.  I
> > would expect that to be the major difference between 4/16/32k window
> > sizes.
> 
> No, I did something like this
> perf kvm  --guestvmlinux ./vmlinux.guest top -g  -U -d 3. Yes that is a
> good idea.
> 
> (I am getting some segfaults with perf top, I think it is already fixed
> but yet to see the patch that fixes)
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > A big concern I have (if this is 1x overcommit) for ebizzy is that it
> > has just terrible scalability to begin with.  I do not think we should
> > try to optimize such a bad workload.
> >
> 
> I think my way of running dbench has some flaw, so I went to ebizzy.
> Could you let me know how you generally run dbench?

I mount a tmpfs and then specify that mount for dbench to run on.  This
eliminates all IO.  I use a 300 second run time and number of threads is
equal to number of vcpus.  All of the VMs of course need to have a
synchronized start.

I would also make sure you are using a recent kernel for dbench, where
the dcache scalability is much improved.  Without any lock-holder
preemption, the time in spin_lock should be very low:


>     21.54%      78016         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] copy_user_generic_unrolled
>      3.51%      12723         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __strchr_sse42
>      2.81%      10176         dbench  dbench              [.] child_run
>      2.54%       9203         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] _raw_spin_lock
>      2.33%       8423         dbench  dbench              [.] next_token
>      2.02%       7335         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] __d_lookup_rcu
>      1.89%       6850         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __strstr_sse42
>      1.53%       5537         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __memset_sse2
>      1.47%       5337         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] link_path_walk
>      1.40%       5084         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] kmem_cache_alloc
>      1.38%       5009         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] memmove
>      1.24%       4496         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] vfprintf
>      1.15%       4169         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] __audit_syscall_exit

-Andrew



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-10 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 11:59 [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:02   ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:24     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:41       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:06         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:25             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25  8:09           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25  8:54             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 13:49               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  7:44               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27  8:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:11                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27  9:33                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:58                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:04                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 10:08                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:15                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <CAJocwcf+8u84_yDC-PK0Yni93YSTWzYvr69nq6b3pNv1MwVJzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-27  8:50                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:26                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-28 18:18                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-30  8:16                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <CAJocwcc19F+PtsQ5okGMvYeVnkEigpZRpwWY9JgeRPFqfcVoXA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-28  6:16                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-30  8:18                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:07                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-30 11:13                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:17                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 14:56                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04  7:29                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-05  8:36                                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-07  9:51                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25  7:36         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25  8:12           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 14:21             ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-27  8:43               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 12:22         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:05           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:41               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 13:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-04 15:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 18:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10  2:59                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:54                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 18:03                           ` David Ahern
2012-10-10 18:14                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:36                           ` Andrew Theurer [this message]
2012-10-15 12:10                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-15 14:34                               ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-19  8:30                                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-19 13:31                                   ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 14:24                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:43                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:27                           ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-11 17:13                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-11 10:39                         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-18 12:39                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19  8:19                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 14:41                 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-05  9:06                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-05  9:02                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:40     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] kvm: Be courteous to other VMs in overcommitted scenario " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:22   ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:46   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-21 13:52     ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:45       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:43         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-24 15:26   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:43       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:58           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:10               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:21                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 10:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios " Chegu Vinod
2012-09-21 17:36   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24  8:42     ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 12:02       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 15:00         ` Dor Laor
2012-09-26 12:27           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-27 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  9:49           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:28             ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:44               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:31               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:33             ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:52   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 12:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 13:29       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 14:16           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 13:40             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  8:36               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:23                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 12:25                     ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28  5:38                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28  5:45                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-09-28  6:03                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28  8:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:40                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28 14:11                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28 14:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-30  8:24                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:29                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:56                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:44                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-05  9:04                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:51           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:20               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-26 13:20                 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 13:39                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 12:57       ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:21         ` Raghavendra K T

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