From: Andrew Theurer <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Srikar <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Jiannan Ouyang <ouyang@cs.pitt.edu>,
chegu vinod <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case in PLE handler
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:36:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349897783.22418.15.camel@oc2024037011.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5075B63C.5030603@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:24 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 08:29 AM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 00:21 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> >> * Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> [2012-10-04 17:00:28]:
> >>
> >>> On 10/04/2012 03:07 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 14:41 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Again the numbers are ridiculously high for arch_local_irq_restore.
> >>>>> Maybe there's a bad perf/kvm interaction when we're injecting an
> >>>>> interrupt, I can't believe we're spending 84% of the time running the
> >>>>> popf instruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> Smells like a software fallback that doesn't do NMI, hrtimer based
> >>>> sampling typically hits popf where we re-enable interrupts.
> >>>
> >>> Good nose, that's probably it. Raghavendra, can you ensure that the PMU
> >>> is properly exposed? 'dmesg' in the guest will tell. If it isn't, -cpu
> >>> host will expose it (and a good idea anyway to get best performance).
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Avi, you are right. SandyBridge machine result was not proper.
> >> I cleaned up the services, enabled PMU, re-ran all the test again.
> >>
> >> Here is the summary:
> >> We do get good benefit by increasing ple window. Though we don't
> >> see good benefit for kernbench and sysbench, for ebizzy, we get huge
> >> improvement for 1x scenario. (almost 2/3rd of ple disabled case).
> >>
> >> Let me know if you think we can increase the default ple_window
> >> itself to 16k.
> >>
> >> I am experimenting with V2 version of undercommit improvement(this) patch
> >> series, But I think if you wish to go for increase of
> >> default ple_window, then we would have to measure the benefit of patches
> >> when ple_window = 16k.
> >>
> >> I can respin the whole series including this default ple_window change.
> >>
> >> I also have the perf kvm top result for both ebizzy and kernbench.
> >> I think they are in expected lines now.
> >>
> >> Improvements
> >> ================
> >>
> >> 16 core PLE machine with 16 vcpu guest
> >>
> >> base = 3.6.0-rc5 + ple handler optimization patches
> >> base_pleopt_16k = base + ple_window = 16k
> >> base_pleopt_32k = base + ple_window = 32k
> >> base_pleopt_nople = base + ple_gap = 0
> >> kernbench, hackbench, sysbench (time in sec lower is better)
> >> ebizzy (rec/sec higher is better)
> >>
> >> % improvements w.r.t base (ple_window = 4k)
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> |base_pleopt_16k| base_pleopt_32k | base_pleopt_nople |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> kernbench_1x | 0.42371 | 1.15164 | 0.09320 |
> >> kernbench_2x | -1.40981 | -17.48282 | -570.77053 |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> sysbench_1x | -0.92367 | 0.24241 | -0.27027 |
> >> sysbench_2x | -2.22706 |-0.30896 | -1.27573 |
> >> sysbench_3x | -0.75509 | 0.09444 | -2.97756 |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >> ebizzy_1x | 54.99976 | 67.29460 | 74.14076 |
> >> ebizzy_2x | -8.83386 |-27.38403 | -96.22066 |
> >> ---------------+---------------+-----------------+-------------------+
> >>
> >> perf kvm top observation for kernbench and ebizzy (nople, 4k, 32k window)
> >> ========================================================================
> >
> > Is the perf data for 1x overcommit?
>
> Yes, 16vcpu guest on 16 core
>
> >
> >> pleopt ple_gap=0
> >> --------------------
> >> ebizzy : 18131 records/s
> >> 63.78% [guest.kernel] [g] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
> >> 5.65% [guest.kernel] [g] smp_call_function_many
> >> 3.12% [guest.kernel] [g] clear_page
> >> 3.02% [guest.kernel] [g] down_read_trylock
> >> 1.85% [guest.kernel] [g] async_page_fault
> >> 1.81% [guest.kernel] [g] up_read
> >> 1.76% [guest.kernel] [g] native_apic_mem_write
> >> 1.70% [guest.kernel] [g] find_vma
> >
> > Does 'perf kvm top' not give host samples at the same time? Would be
> > nice to see the host overhead as a function of varying ple window. I
> > would expect that to be the major difference between 4/16/32k window
> > sizes.
>
> No, I did something like this
> perf kvm --guestvmlinux ./vmlinux.guest top -g -U -d 3. Yes that is a
> good idea.
>
> (I am getting some segfaults with perf top, I think it is already fixed
> but yet to see the patch that fixes)
>
>
>
> >
> > A big concern I have (if this is 1x overcommit) for ebizzy is that it
> > has just terrible scalability to begin with. I do not think we should
> > try to optimize such a bad workload.
> >
>
> I think my way of running dbench has some flaw, so I went to ebizzy.
> Could you let me know how you generally run dbench?
I mount a tmpfs and then specify that mount for dbench to run on. This
eliminates all IO. I use a 300 second run time and number of threads is
equal to number of vcpus. All of the VMs of course need to have a
synchronized start.
I would also make sure you are using a recent kernel for dbench, where
the dcache scalability is much improved. Without any lock-holder
preemption, the time in spin_lock should be very low:
> 21.54% 78016 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] copy_user_generic_unrolled
> 3.51% 12723 dbench libc-2.12.so [.] __strchr_sse42
> 2.81% 10176 dbench dbench [.] child_run
> 2.54% 9203 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_lock
> 2.33% 8423 dbench dbench [.] next_token
> 2.02% 7335 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __d_lookup_rcu
> 1.89% 6850 dbench libc-2.12.so [.] __strstr_sse42
> 1.53% 5537 dbench libc-2.12.so [.] __memset_sse2
> 1.47% 5337 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] link_path_walk
> 1.40% 5084 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] kmem_cache_alloc
> 1.38% 5009 dbench libc-2.12.so [.] memmove
> 1.24% 4496 dbench libc-2.12.so [.] vfprintf
> 1.15% 4169 dbench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __audit_syscall_exit
-Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-10 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-21 11:59 [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:02 ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:41 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 8:09 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 13:49 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 7:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 9:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 9:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 10:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:15 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <CAJocwcf+8u84_yDC-PK0Yni93YSTWzYvr69nq6b3pNv1MwVJzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-27 8:50 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:26 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-28 18:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-30 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <CAJocwcc19F+PtsQ5okGMvYeVnkEigpZRpwWY9JgeRPFqfcVoXA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-28 6:16 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-30 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-30 11:13 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:17 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 7:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-05 8:36 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-07 9:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 7:36 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 8:12 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 14:21 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-27 8:43 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 12:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:49 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 13:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-04 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 18:51 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 2:59 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:54 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 18:03 ` David Ahern
2012-10-10 18:14 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:36 ` Andrew Theurer [this message]
2012-10-15 12:10 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-15 14:34 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-19 8:30 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-19 13:31 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 14:24 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:43 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:27 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-11 17:13 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-11 10:39 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-18 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19 8:19 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 14:41 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-05 9:06 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-05 9:02 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 11:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] kvm: Be courteous to other VMs in overcommitted scenario " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:22 ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:46 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-21 13:52 ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:45 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:43 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-24 15:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios " Chegu Vinod
2012-09-21 17:36 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 8:42 ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 12:02 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 15:00 ` Dor Laor
2012-09-26 12:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-27 10:07 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 9:49 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:28 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:31 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:33 ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:52 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 12:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 13:29 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 14:16 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 13:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 8:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:23 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:03 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 12:25 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28 5:38 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28 5:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-09-28 6:03 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:40 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28 14:11 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-30 8:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:29 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:56 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-05 9:04 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-26 13:20 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 13:39 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 12:57 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:21 ` Raghavendra K T
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