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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: frank.rowand@am.sony.com
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Carsten Emde <C.Emde@osadl.org>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Clark Williams <clark.williams@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH RT 3/4] sched/rt: Use IPI to trigger RT task push migration instead of pulling
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:53:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1355190830.17101.280.camel@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C68922.5030203@am.sony.com>

On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 17:15 -0800, Frank Rowand wrote:

> I should have also mentioned some previous experience using IPIs to
> avoid runq lock contention on wake up.  Someone encountered IPI
> storms when using the TTWU_QUEUE feature, thus it defaults to off
> for CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL:
> 
>   #ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_FULL
>   /*
>    * Queue remote wakeups on the target CPU and process them
>    * using the scheduler IPI. Reduces rq->lock contention/bounces.
>    */
>   SCHED_FEAT(TTWU_QUEUE, true)
>   #else
>   SCHED_FEAT(TTWU_QUEUE, false)
> 

Interesting, but I'm wondering if this also does it for every wakeup? If
you have 1000 tasks waking up on another CPU, this could potentially
send out 1000 IPIs. The number of IPIs here looks to be # of tasks
waking up, and perhaps more than that, as there could be multiple
instances that try to wake up the same task.

Now this patch set, the # of IPIs is limited to the # of CPUs. If you
have 4 CPUs, you'll get a storm of 3 IPIs. That's a big difference.

Now we could even add a flag, and do a test_and_set on it, and send out
an IPI iff the flag wasn't set before. Have the target CPU clear the
flag and then do the pushing. This would limit even further the IPIs
needed to be sent. I didn't add this yet, because I wanted to test the
current code first, and only add this if there is an issue with too many
IPIs.

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-11  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-07 23:56 [RFC][PATCH RT 0/4] sched/rt: Lower rq lock contention latencies on many CPU boxes Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 23:56 ` [RFC][PATCH RT 1/4] sched/rt: Fix push_rt_task() to have the same checks as the caller did Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 23:56 ` [RFC][PATCH RT 2/4] sched/rt: Try to migrate task if preempting pinned rt task Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 23:56 ` [RFC][PATCH RT 3/4] sched/rt: Use IPI to trigger RT task push migration instead of pulling Steven Rostedt
2012-12-11  0:48   ` Frank Rowand
2012-12-11  1:15     ` Frank Rowand
2012-12-11  1:53       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-12-11  7:07         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-12-11 12:43         ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-12-11 14:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-11 14:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-11  1:41     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 23:56 ` [RFC][PATCH RT 4/4] sched/rt: Initiate a pull when the priority of a task is lowered Steven Rostedt
2012-12-10 22:59 ` [RFC][PATCH RT 0/4] sched/rt: Lower rq lock contention latencies on many CPU boxes Clark Williams

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