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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
Cc: richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Xose Vazquez Perez <xose.vazquez@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Drake <dsd@laptop.org>,
	Ulrich Kunitz <kune@deine-taler.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux-firmware: add MISSING file
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:31:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1358731892.24121.238.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130114175533.4f184cd3@mj>

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On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 17:55 -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:09:46 +0100
> richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > +This file attempts to document the reason why a firmware is not
> > > present +in this bundle.
> > 
> > From the user's point of view this not really helpful.
> > Wouldn't a in-kernel table of known but missing firmware files make
> > more sense? The kernel could write a log like "Yeah, I know this
> > firmware but sadly I don't have it because of ..."
> 
> The firmware file may be absent on the system even if it's in the
> linux-firmware tree.  Conversely, the firmware may be present on the
> system but not in the linux-firmware tree.
> 
> The kernel doesn't know whether the firmware is missing due to
> licensing issues or due to misconfiguration.  The kernel cannot know
> that.  And I don't think the kernel should include as much information
> as the MISSING file would include.

I can see some value in an index explaining where to get firmware,
whether it's available from the copyright holder or some licensee or
must be extracted from Windows drivers with a particular tool.

I'm not sure whether linux-firmware.git is the right place for that,
though.  Would distributions include this in their packages and would
users be able to find it there?  Would a wiki page be more useful?

Putting my Debian hat, I can say that we don't distribute any of the
older files that are 'GPL but no source visible', while we do distribute
some files not included in linux-firmware.git that require click-wrap
licences.  I also prune files that aren't referenced by the kernel
version in any current release.  So a file that says what's missing from
linux-firmware.git would not be that useful to Debian users, for
example.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Q.  Which is the greater problem in the world today, ignorance or apathy?
A.  I don't know and I couldn't care less.

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      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-12 22:39 Xose Vazquez Perez
2013-01-12 23:09 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-01-14 22:55   ` Pavel Roskin
2013-01-21  1:31     ` Ben Hutchings [this message]

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