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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kasatkin, Dmitry" <dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ima: Support appraise_type=imasig_optional
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:48:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1360856928.3524.626.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130214144033.GA13047@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 09:40 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 04:45:23PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> 
[..]

> > > If it would happen that it contains signature, then IMA_DIGSIG flag
> > > would be set,
> > > and process could get needed capability as Vivek wants.
> > 
> > With the 'optional' condition, both unsigned and validly signed files
> > will succeed.  One way of making this information accessible to an LSM,
> > would be to define a new integrity capability and set it here.  The new
> > integrity capability would indicate the file was validly signed. 
> 
> Thinking loud.
> 
> The problem with integrity capability is that it goes only so far. If
> we provide capability in exec() path, then that capability means much
> more in the sense, we know file is locked to run from memory. An integrity
> capability just means file is validly signed.

> So exec() code might have to do another capability on top which will
> also ensure that file is executable is locked in memory and signature
> verification is done after loading in memory so that it is not open
> to writing to disk block attacks.
> 
> And based on this capability we probably need to deny write access to file
> till file is open for exec() (I noticed that after load, we seem to be
> allowing access to write access).

I think we're back to my original comment that the bprm_check hook might
need to be moved or an additional hook added, as the existing bprm_check
hook is located before the file is locked from modification.  :)

thanks,

Mimi




      reply	other threads:[~2013-02-14 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-11 20:11 [RFC PATCH 0/2] ima: Support a mode to appraise signed files only Vivek Goyal
2013-02-11 20:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] ima: Do not try to fix hash if file system does not support security xattr Vivek Goyal
2013-02-12 11:45   ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-12 14:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-11 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] ima: Support appraise_type=imasig_optional Vivek Goyal
2013-02-11 22:10   ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-12 14:26     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-12 17:14       ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-12 18:52         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-12 18:57           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 12:14             ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 13:29               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 13:36                 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 13:49                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 14:03                   ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 14:38                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 15:26                     ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 15:29                       ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 15:39                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 15:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 22:27                         ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-14 15:03                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 15:30                             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-18 18:21                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-19 21:54                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 15:51                     ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-12 20:05           ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 12:31   ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 12:56     ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 13:13       ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 13:44         ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 16:59           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 12:57             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-14 15:23               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 15:35                 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-14 16:17                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 16:31                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 19:49                     ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-14 20:54                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 20:57                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 21:54                           ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-13 17:33           ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 17:51             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-13 18:20               ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-13 21:45             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-14 14:40               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-14 15:48                 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]

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