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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, ak@linux.intel.com, acme@redhat.com,
	jolsa@redhat.com, namhyung.kim@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 07/18] perf: add generic memory sampling interface
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:45:07 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1360982707.22260.79.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130215194622.GA6396@us.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:46 -0800, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> 
> POWER could use an additional field:
> 
>                         mem_deratmiss:1

If you want to make that field more "generic" make it "lvl1_tlb_miss",
ie, a miss in the internal "level 1" TLB which is the smallest/fastest
TLB level in the load/store unit.

> AFAICT, POWER does not currently save the mem_op, snoop or lock info
> for the sampled instruction.  I guess we can leave them set to 0.

Well, we don't have lock instructions to begin with :-) If we can read
the IP then we can deduce the memop tho.

> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +/* type of opcode (load/store/prefetch,code) */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_NA             0x01 /* not available */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_LOAD   0x02 /* load instruction */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_STORE  0x04 /* store instruction */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_PFETCH 0x08 /* prefetch */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_EXEC   0x10 /* code (execution) */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_OP_SHIFT  0
> > > +
> > > +/* memory hierarchy (memory level, hit or miss) */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_NA            0x01  /* not available */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_HIT   0x02  /* hit level */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_MISS  0x04  /* miss level  */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_L1            0x08  /* L1 */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_LFB   0x10  /* Line Fill Buffer */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_L2            0x20  /* L2 hit */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_L3            0x40  /* L3 hit */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_LOC_RAM       0x80  /* Local DRAM */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_REM_RAM1      0x100 /* Remote DRAM (1 hop)
> */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_REM_RAM2      0x200 /* Remote DRAM (2 hops)
> */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_REM_CCE1      0x400 /* Remote Cache (1 hop)
> */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_REM_CCE2      0x800 /* Remote Cache (2 hops)
> */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_IO            0x1000 /* I/O memory */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_UNC   0x2000 /* Uncached memory */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LVL_SHIFT 5
> 
> POWER saves following information to describe where the data was
> loaded from after a Dcache or DTLB miss.
> 
>         FROM_L2
>         FROM_L3
> 
>         FROM_L2.1_SHR   From another L2 or L3 on same chip,
> shared      
>         FROM_L2.1_MOD   From another L2 or L3 on same chip, modified
> 
>         FROM_L3.1_SHR   From remote L2 or L3, shared    
>         FROM_L3.1_MOD   From remote L2 or L3, modified
> 
>         FROM_RL2L3_SHR  From remote L2 or L3, shared    
>         FROM_RL2L3_MOD  From remote L2 or L3, modified
> 
>         FROM_DL2L3_SHR  From distant L2 or L3, shared   
>         FROM_DL2L3_MOD  From distant L2 or L3, modified
> 
> POWER uses 4 bits and a running count for its (currently) 13 possible
> values.
> 
> The macros in the patch use a separate bit for each level - is that to
> allow
> selecting more than one level at the same time ? If so, we will need
> to reserve
> a few more bits to allow for Power's memory levels that don't map to
> the above.
> 
> > > +
> > > +/* snoop mode */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_NA  0x01 /* not available */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_NONE        0x02 /* no snoop */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_HIT 0x04 /* snoop hit */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_MISS        0x08 /* snoop miss */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_HITM        0x10 /* snoop hit modified */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_SHIFT       19
> > > +
> > > +/* locked instruction */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LOCK_NA   0x01 /* not available */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LOCK_LOCKED       0x02 /* locked transaction */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_LOCK_SHIFT        24
> > > +
> > > +/* TLB access */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_NA            0x01 /* not available */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_HIT   0x02 /* hit level */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_MISS  0x04 /* miss level */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_L1            0x08 /* L1 */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_L2            0x10 /* L2 */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_WK            0x20 /* Hardware Walker*/
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_OS            0x40 /* OS fault handler */
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_TLB_SHIFT 26
> 
> On POWER, like with the Dcache source above, we have 4 bits to
> describe where
> the DTLB was loaded from after a dTLB miss. 
> 
> We would probably need to allow more bits to for the memory level of
> the dTLB
> load source.
> 
> > > +
> > > +#define PERF_MEM_S(a, s) \
> > > +   (((u64)PERF_MEM_##a##_##s) << PERF_MEM_##a##_SHIFT)
> > > +
> > 
> > Would be nice to get feedback from PowerPC folks to see how well 
> > this matches their memory profiling hw capabilities?
> > 
> > I suspect there's a lot of differences, but one can always hope 
> > ...
> > 
> > If there's some hope for unification we could at least shape it 
> > in a way that they could pick up and extend.
> 
> Thanks for Ccing.
> 
> While on the topic of sampled instructions, POWER saves following
> information
> (in addition to the above memory info) for sampled instructions.
> 
>         - whether the sampled instruction encountered a stall
>         - the reasons for the stall.
>         - whether the instruction was from hypervisor 
>         - there was a branch mis-predict,
>         - thresholding information
> 
> These are clubbed into an "event vector" that is saved for sampled
> instructions. We have been meaning to find ways to present that to
> to user space. Are there plans to retreive and present these too.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-16  2:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-24 15:10 [PATCH v7 00/18] perf: add memory access sampling support Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 01/18] perf, x86: Support CPU specific sysfs events Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:16   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2013-04-02  9:38   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 02/18] perf/x86: improve sysfs event mapping with event string Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:17   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: Improve " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:39   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 03/18] perf/x86: add flags to event constraints Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:18   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:40   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 04/18] perf, core: Add a concept of a weightened sample v2 Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:20   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/core: Add weighted samples tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2013-04-02  9:42   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 05/18] perf, tools: Add support for weight v7 (modified) Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:49   ` [tip:perf/core] perf " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 06/18] perf: add support for PERF_SAMPLE_ADDR in dump_sampple() Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 07/18] perf: add generic memory sampling interface Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25  9:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-01-25 15:30     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-01-29 10:37       ` Michael Ellerman
2013-02-15 19:46     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2013-02-16  2:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-02-16  8:41         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-16 14:14         ` Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:21   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:43   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 08/18] perf/x86: add memory profiling via PEBS Load Latency Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:22   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:44   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 09/18] perf/x86: export PEBS load latency threshold register to sysfs Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:23   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: Export " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:45   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 10/18] perf/x86: add support for PEBS Precise Store Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:24   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf/x86: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:47   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 11/18] perf tools: add mem access sampling core support Stephane Eranian
2013-03-27 14:14   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-03-27 14:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 14:34       ` Jiri Olsa
2013-03-27 14:48         ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-27 16:56           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-03-28 14:24             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-28 15:00               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-03-28 15:06                 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-28 15:12                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-03-28 15:15                   ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-27 14:23     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-04-02  9:50   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 12/18] perf report: add support for mem access profiling Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:53   ` [tip:perf/core] perf report: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 13/18] perf record: add " Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:51   ` [tip:perf/core] perf record: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 14/18] perf tools: add new mem command for memory " Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:55   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 15/18] perf: add PERF_RECORD_MISC_MMAP_DATA to RECORD_MMAP Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 12:25   ` [tip:perf/x86] perf: Add " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:48   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 16/18] perf tools: detect data vs. text mappings Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:57   ` [tip:perf/core] perf machine: Detect " tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 17/18] perf tools: Ignore ABS symbols when loading data maps Stephane Eranian
2013-01-24 15:10 ` [PATCH v7 18/18] perf tools: Fix output of symbol_daddr offset Stephane Eranian
2013-04-02  9:58   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2013-01-25  8:55 ` [PATCH v7 00/18] perf: add memory access sampling support Ingo Molnar
2013-01-25 15:28   ` Stephane Eranian
2013-01-25 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-05 13:03   ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-05 15:35     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2013-02-06 13:24       ` Ingo Molnar

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