From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
"Kasatkin, Dmitry" <dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] initramfs with digital signature protection
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:05:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1365627922.2452.32.camel@falcor1.watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130410194209.GF6602@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 15:42 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:07:10PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>
> [..]
> > The module keyring is a special case. Loading these keys from the
> > kernel and, presumably, locking the keyring is probably fine. In the
> > case of IMA, however, files will be signed by any number of package
> > owners. If the _ima keyring is locked by the kernel, how would you add
> > these other keys?
>
> Who are package owners here. IOW, in typical IMA setup, where are the keys
> and when are these keys loaded in ima keyring?
Suppose I install third party packages not signed by the distro, but by
the package owner (eg. google, rpmfusion, ...). Not only does the
package signature need to be verified on installation, but the files
need to be installed with signatures. For IMA to enforce file
integrity, the package owner's public key needs to be added to the _ima
keyring.
> If we trust root and keys can be loaded any time later, then signed
> initramfs will not solve the problem either.
Locking the keyring in the kernel will limit the set of permitted keys
to only those specified in UEFI db or builtin. Locking the keyring in
the "early" initramfs, will allow the system owner, whose key is in the
UEFI db, to specify additional keys, such as those for third party
packages. Not all public keys belong in the UEFI db.
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-10 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-05 12:34 [RFC 0/2] " Dmitry Kasatkin
2013-02-05 12:34 ` [RFC 1/2] export unpack_to_rootfs Dmitry Kasatkin
2013-02-05 16:48 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-05 17:16 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-08 8:30 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-05 12:34 ` [RFC 2/2] initramfs with digital signature protection Dmitry Kasatkin
2013-02-05 18:03 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-05 20:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-05 22:03 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-05 18:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-05 18:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-05 18:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-05 21:55 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-04-05 13:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 19:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-04-08 20:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 20:17 ` Josh Boyer
2013-04-09 14:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-10 3:07 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-04-10 19:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-10 21:05 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2013-04-11 8:08 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2013-04-11 14:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-12 11:54 ` Mimi Zohar
[not found] ` <CACE9dm-GZpjco8u6jNxLQpYA8LYSeoVjsyyRXVwxXHzjO-LvGw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-11 14:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-11 18:42 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2013-04-11 21:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-12 12:03 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-02-05 20:36 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-05 22:09 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-06 5:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-06 8:01 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-06 16:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 9:16 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-08 15:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 16:24 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-08 16:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-07 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-08 8:34 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-08 13:27 ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2013-02-11 21:59 ` Vivek Goyal
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